My epiphany about "stopping power"
Some years ago I traded my way into a Ruger #1 in .458WM.
I mostly shoot 45-70 level cast-bullet loads, but was interested in the ultimate deer stopper load.
I loaded a Remington 405gr FN bullet to 2300fps. Thats about 4500 foot-pounds of energy.
Now that Remington bullet is designed for about 1500fps, and I knew that it would be very explosive at 2300fps. I thought of it as a low-tech ballistic tip that would fragment and do extensive damage on 100-150lb game.
I hit the 120lb doe through the shoulder and both lungs, blowing a 2" diameter hole all the way through. You could put your fist in the exit wound.
That doe ran 60yds before piling up . . . . just like it would have done if hit by a .357mag.
That day I gave up on stopping power.
If 4500fp will not "stop" a 120lb doe, then the difference between a 9mm and a .45ACP is academic.
Bob
Complete thread:
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Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:52 
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Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:56
- Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Slow Hand, 
2012-10-25, 05:20
- That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-25, 10:59
- That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - Slow Hand, 2012-10-26, 06:16
 
 
 - That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-25, 10:59
 
 - Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Slow Hand, 
2012-10-25, 05:20
 - Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
Rob Leahy, 
2012-10-23, 19:18
- Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
lee Jurras, 
2012-10-23, 22:35
- I tried them slow, fast, and in between back when - MR, 2012-10-24, 00:02
 - It is worth A LOT, to me. Thanks for both you and Byron - Rob Leahy, 2012-10-24, 09:48
 
 
 - Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
lee Jurras, 
2012-10-23, 22:35
 - The Factor of Little of Either. - 
JLF, 
2012-10-23, 22:48
- The Factor of Little of Either. - 
Sarge, 
2012-10-24, 00:27
- The Factor of Little of Either. - Charles, 2012-10-24, 11:39
 
 - My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 10:37
- My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
Charles, 
2012-10-24, 11:43
- I've had the same results with many loads - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 12:08
- I've had the same results with many loads - Charles, 2012-10-26, 10:57
 
 
 - I've had the same results with many loads - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 12:08
 - Mine. - JLF, 2012-10-24, 14:06
 
 - My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
Charles, 
2012-10-24, 11:43
 
 - The Factor of Little of Either. - 
Sarge, 
2012-10-24, 00:27
 
 - Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:56