The Factor of Little of Either.
Within the limitations of common handgun calibers, the overwhelming bulk of what a person who has been shot will do, is determined by...what a person who has been shot will do. Precious few handgun hits render a target either instantly unconscious, or physically/neurologically incapacitated. OTOH, the scale of human reaction runs the gamut from falling down and howling when shot with a BB, to remaining active, and lethal, for an astounding amount of time after multiple hits with any handgun caliber. The determining factors along this scale just have one heck of a lot more to do with the human, than they do the caliber/bullet.
So despite our many decades of study and research on "stopping power", the single most life-saving element of the complex equation for us good guys, is the "reality" that the overwhelming majority of humans share a common reaction to being shot, which is a *mental* reaction. "I've been shot!" means, stop, lay down, or sit down, and hurt like hell. Bill Jordan devotes a whole chapter to overcoming this for us good guys, to stay in the fight, and perservere. It's not easy, and few scrotes have read his book.
Don't misunderstand, I think the focus and the work, and the research has blessed us with the best guns and ammo we have ever enjoyed. I have zero objections to upping the odds, every time, and any way we can. My preference, if a gunfight is just going to happen, is a 4" Colt Woodsman, with a magic round of .22 that turns my adversary into a lingering cloud of pink mist, depending on the wind. Until I have that, I want my adversary in that giant percentage that lays down when shot, no matter what I have hit him with.
JLF
Complete thread:
- Common sense vs reality....part II.... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:52 
- Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:56
- Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Slow Hand, 
2012-10-25, 05:20
- That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-25, 10:59
- That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - Slow Hand, 2012-10-26, 06:16
 
 
 - That's why the Keith bullets are excellent and......... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-25, 10:59
 
 - Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Slow Hand, 
2012-10-25, 05:20
 - Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
Rob Leahy, 
2012-10-23, 19:18
- Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
lee Jurras, 
2012-10-23, 22:35
- I tried them slow, fast, and in between back when - MR, 2012-10-24, 00:02
 - It is worth A LOT, to me. Thanks for both you and Byron - Rob Leahy, 2012-10-24, 09:48
 
 
 - Have you tried pushing them any faster? - 
lee Jurras, 
2012-10-23, 22:35
 - The Factor of Little of Either. - 
JLF, 
2012-10-23, 22:48
- The Factor of Little of Either. - 
Sarge, 
2012-10-24, 00:27
- The Factor of Little of Either. - Charles, 2012-10-24, 11:39
 
 - My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 10:37
- My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
Charles, 
2012-10-24, 11:43
- I've had the same results with many loads - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 12:08
- I've had the same results with many loads - Charles, 2012-10-26, 10:57
 
 
 - I've had the same results with many loads - 
RangerBob, 
2012-10-24, 12:08
 - Mine. - JLF, 2012-10-24, 14:06
 
 - My epiphany about "stopping power" - 
Charles, 
2012-10-24, 11:43
 
 - The Factor of Little of Either. - 
Sarge, 
2012-10-24, 00:27
 
 - Common sense vs reality....part II....recovered bullets... - 
Byron, 
2012-10-23, 15:56