In that and the ammo regard I am ready but I am relatively isolated. I.e., my buddies don't live next door. That is bad. However my neighbors look relatively good and are between me and most everything else. Like offering a chew toy to the dog so she won't get your slippers. Worse though, my house is in range of an AT-4 from the armory. That was nice when I was stationed there.

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Sincerely,

Hobie

Many of same thoughts crossed my mind as we 'retired', and I tried to reduce the 'lug around' factor. Hobie's .303's will do everything a Gunsite rifle will do, and used to be dirt cheap, as was Greek or South African good ammo. There is no faster true bolt action or more quickly reload-able. [JMHO]

However, those days are pretty much past. A modern semi-auto like the better AR's is beautiful only in function, but it sure shines there. Once you take the time to become educated in parts, maintenance, and all the rest that any good battle rifle requires, then the function sorta spiffs up one's admiration of the form.

An M-4forgery and a...ahem..'target' version cover a lot of ground, near and far. Not to lecture, which I can be prone to do.....but there are lots and lots of folks here who can dispense sensible advice here. I posted this only because I really really had NO use at all for AR's...or it's competitors. Only when I had to review the bedrock nitty-gritty of basics for the future, did I most reluctantly accept their top'o the heap, for the future usefulness.

And ya know what? I like them. I have the 'golf ball at 130 yards' heavy [relatively speaking] gun, and now am planning on the 'door-kicker/door defender' -- very simple light quick version. Also, the prices on reliable handy versions continues to drop, as was pointed out in earlier posts. By all means, indulge y'r own wishes. F'r instance, I happen to believe that an ugly well-made AK with a pile of mags and ammo could be a pretty good thing, too -- if I had gotten into it about five years ago. ;~`) However, I do know where an unfired good SKS and a crate of ammo is sitting unused by the purchaser, who may wish to sell it back. ;~`)

Think absolute basic: then the 'hobbiest' can indulge in treats at a later date. ;~`)

Byron

This is MBR....

Byron

Interesting discussion

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=112190

seriously; better than money in the bank.

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Of the Troops & For the Troops

to look at it from a slightly different perspective - that of a retired old fart on fixed income and not a lot of it for fancy stuff I may never really NEED.

A few years ago I bought a Remington 700 ADL Synthetic in .308. Under $400 at that time. I put the best scope I could afford on it - a Leupold VariX II 3-9, that cost nearly as much as the rifle. The rifle is black, but it is in no way "tactical". I doubt I could fight a war with it without breaking it, but it would likely last as long as I would. It is lightweight, easy to carry and handle, quick to the shot, and can be worked about as fast as possible for a boltgun. Oh yeah, it is ACCURATE.

Most significant drawback is the 4-round blind magazine - not much in the way of firepower there. I think there are conversion kits that would enable the basic M700 to be fitted with a detachable magazine, but I have not bothered to hunt one up.

The point is, it would seem that with a little imagination the M700 could form the basis for an inexpensive but fairly effective "scout" rifle.

Just cogitatin'.......

1 - you could use what you have to get what you want
or
2 - you'll be too late with such a decision and forever, one way or another, unable to do anything for yourself or your family.

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Sincerely,

Hobie