My beloved Caitlyn has been gone for 2 years now and her little sister
Grace is beginning to show the powerful energy that marked Cait's life.

During a dinner table discussion about life and the need to be careful the talked turned to combatives and the common strip mall sport karate that is fancied to "self-defense"...

In my very limited experience, a YMCA trained boxer that spars a bit on the weekends can consistantly knock the the stuffing out of most karate black belts within 15 seconds...without breaking a sweat and before the karate fighter can get his mojo on....

So....no surprise...Grace decided that she will be a boxer....

Somehow my kids are doing OK in spite of me....

Caitlyn is proud of her little sister...

Byron

find an instructor that can and will teach at her level of physical development.

By the time she's 18.....

...Krav Maga is not a martial art. Krav Maga is how to smash somebody to an absolute dead stop, in as close to instantly as possible.

-AaronB

. . . . I've been a boxing fan for as long as I've been able to understand the sport. I hate it that boxing has been almost destroyed by greed and marketing.

I agree that boxing is great combat training. I also agree that a person who spends some time actually hitting and being hit will learn a lot more than most people who spend time "sparing" in most martial arts studios. I would like to see a herd of black belts try their skills against a prime-time Joe Frazier. Combat is not a dance and you don't get points for style. There's no substitute for actual hitting.

But, at it's core, boxing is still a game. It's a violent, dangerous game, but it's still a game with rules. MMA appears to be more "street" but it's still a game with rules.

From what I've seen, Krav Maga is about the only system that's really designed for pure survival. It would be worth looking into.

Someone in a similar discussion described how he was going back to a 'normal' martial art, because Krav was just as you described -- not a sport: but instantly incapacitating -- with no regard to potential damage/lethality, or not.

Been going to the gym for a few months now with some success, and now wondering how a creaky jointed ol' guy would fare in a Krav klass.

Other than that, winter has been a coming all summer and shop/building improvements kept me to the work biz. Now, a breather, and time to work out that ol' Mossy 835 w/turkey length bbl, on wome fowl.

Model 19 & the Indiana kydex working well, getting re-used to Glocking trigger pull and grip. Still shopping around for the new Flattie .45 Bisley hammer/trigger deal -- not urgent, but nagging need. AR Coyote shoots far better than I can ever hold - minute of a golf ball at 130 yards, f'r instance.

Doing the Maumee Valley Gunshow this weekend in Toledo, OH. Clearing out my collection of Handloader/Rifle, sporting book surplus, history, polly-ticks, what have you. Let someone else tote the paper, is my motto, now.

Aywayz, always enjoy reading youse guys, and the few other boards I check, anymore. FB is fun, too. Good way to remember frreinds and fellow gunners.

Adios, for da nonce,