Unique and Cast in the .44 Magnum

by AaronB, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 13:00 (1 day, 9 hours, 11 min. ago)

Hi all.

Some years back my dad had bought a Ruger stainless Vaquero in .44 Mag for a woods-walking gun. He loved the pistol but was afraid of full-snort loads in in it, so I loaded him up some Lyman 429421 Keith SWCs over 10.0 grains of Unique for a nice easy-shooting load that would still be effective against critters should the need arise.

Since he passed I have inherited the pistol and three 20-round boxes of those handloads. It's a lovely combination. It occurred to me to wonder what velocity I'm getting with it? Extrapolating from existing load data I think I'm just shy of 1000 fps, which puts this load firmly in .45 ACP territory. Which, there are no flies on that you might say.

My only quibble is that Unique is a sooty powder, and I'm wondering if I can replicate that load with some Blue Dot. Blue Dot burns cleaner for me.

-AaronB

Unique and Cast in the .44 Magnum

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 13:33 (1 day, 8 hours, 38 min. ago) @ AaronB

Warning: I've only noodled around with this tool a bit so....FWIW

Gordon's Reloading Tool shows 10gr. Unique under a Lee 240gr. bullet produces 26,649psi and 1143fps from a 6" barrel. Changing to 15gr. Blue Dot produces 24,767psi and 1181fps. It also warns of low burn rate and inconsistent combustion.

The components were chosen from the existing lists and not tailored in any way. I would use these results very cautiously. But my guess is BD is a tad slow for the application.

Blue Dot

by AaronB, Thursday, September 11, 2025, 13:33 (8 hours, 38 minutes ago) @ Hoot

I have put up some Blue Dot loads in .45 ACP with 200-grain SWCs with very good results... of course the shorter, fatter case probably helps with consistency. I've been pleased with the results in my 25-2.

This tells me that there are likely consistent loads using BD under the Keith 240 in .44 Mag, but they'll be hotter loads than what I'm looking for.

-AaronB

If you have any of that nasty old dirty Unique

by JimT, Texas, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 15:18 (1 day, 6 hours, 53 min. ago) @ AaronB

that you don't want, I would gladly take it off your hands and help keep your guns cleaner. :-D

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Burning dirt!

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 19:43 (1 day, 2 hours, 28 min. ago) @ JimT

And I’ll take all I can get!!

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I ain't quite that rich yet

by AaronB, Thursday, September 11, 2025, 13:34 (8 hours, 37 minutes ago) @ JimT

I'm very blessed, it's true, but I'm not so blessed just yet as to give away good smokeless powder.

That stuff's spendy. :-D

-AaronB

And getting "spendier" every day .... (nm)

by JimT, Texas, Thursday, September 11, 2025, 14:20 (7 hours, 51 minutes ago) @ AaronB

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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.

Unique and Cast in the .44 Magnum

by TJB, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 17:04 (1 day, 5 hours, 7 min. ago) @ AaronB
edited by TJB, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 17:08

Which barrel length on the Vaquero? I've shot thousands of 10gr Unique with the Keith bullet and Magma machine 240's. With the Keith bullet they do an honest 1000 fps from a 4" M29. The Magma bullets run 1050, probably due to the deeper seating. IIRC they do well over 1100 from a 7 1/2" SBH.

Going with a firm crimp with this load cleans it up considerably, but yeah, it's still gonna be a bit dirty.

Unique and Cast in the .44 Magnum

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 19:49 (1 day, 2 hours, 22 min. ago) @ AaronB
edited by Slow Hand, Wednesday, September 10, 2025, 19:54

Being low on Unique at the time of getting my Flat Top .44, and tried some W231. I had good results with 6.5gr and a 429421 in special cases and 11.0 in magnum cases. It was before I got my Garmin so I don’t have chrono data with me at present.


ETA some quick googling shows others chrono day of around 950 fps with the special load and 1280 with the magnum load.

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