Haven´t had a chance to play with conicals in... way too long. I'd favor tallow over lard and would also look at olive oil as a possibility. Beeswax, of course, the question being - what to use to get it soft enough for the purpose. My favorite natural lube back in the day involved the use of stingless bee wax, a commodity even more difficult to source now than back then. For what it's worth, I tend to use olive oil for my round ball patches.

for both ball patches and over ball revolver grease. The downside is the diesel exhaust smell when firing into the wind. The whole "natural only" with b.p. only became paramount with the bore seasoning and never cleaning with water fad. The authority Ned Roberts used Vaseline when he had no bear grease or when his supply had turned rancid.

Toilet bowl wax rings still work for filling those wide, deep maxi grooves though they now contain more paraffin than beeswax.

Pipe seating grease.....

https://www.amazon.com/Oatey-40501-Hercules-Duck-Butter/dp/B00E1BX5LU/ref=pd_aw_fbt_img...

Is quite water soluble and cleans readily with just hot water.

Hobby Lobby sold soy wax shavings for candle making is pricey but I buy it when it is marked down 50%. Melts easily and thin with olive oil as needed.

1 / 10 ballisol/water mix is your best friend for b.p. or substitute cleaning. The water neutralizes the nasties and quickly evaporates.

I prefer tallow over lard, as some lard products have salt in them. I use beeswax, coconut oil, and lanolin for the BPCR, a little more coconut oil for the Hawken to keep it a little softer. For wiping I use Murphy's oil soap (25ish %) and distilled water (75ish%), when shooting long strings, I tend to wipe with one damp and one dry patch every 2nd or 3rd shot but I live in an exceedingly dry climate in NM.

Dave

I just go simple and use beeswax pellets from Amazon and Crisco. I poured about equal parts in a cleaned out green bean can and heated it with my heat gun until the beeswax melted and stirred it all together. I use it for dip lubing most of my BP cartridge bullets. I will mix it much softer, about 4-1 Crisco to wax for cylinder lube in cap and ball revolvers. I will also use that softer mix to coat the bore and outside of many older guns. Hasn’t caused any issues for me. Crisco shows 0mg of sodium and doesn’t list salt in the ingredients anywhere.

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source that is surprisingly cost competitive.

https://www.amazon.com/Atsko-Sno-Seal-Original-Beeswax-Waterproofing/dp/B00CQJDV40/ref=...

When I couldn't source beeswax locally, I ordered a pound from Amazon for about 10 bucks.

After reading the abundance of useful replies I've received on this question, I have decided that I probably don't have to buy anything. I can just make up some conical lube out of items I have on hand. They include:

- Petroleum jelly
- Pure pork leaf lard (needs refrigeration, but BEST SHORTENING EVAR)
- Vegetable shortening (which, I'm much happier shooting this than eating it)
- Wax toilet rings
- Olive Oil
- Bulk automotive grease

For pistol bullet lube I use a mix of toilet ring wax and automotive wheel bearing grease, 50-50 by volume. I may warm up a bit of that and mix in enough olive oil to soften it a bit, then try that. It's a place to start anyway.

Thanks all for the help.

-AaronB

and see if it shoots a tighter group. I have read that the maxi will shoot better like that. Some also swear that a wool wad under the maxi will help with accuracy.

Bob