I ran across a deal on Small Pistol Primers ....
They were a little less than $60 a thousand which these days is a pretty good deal. They were made in Argentina but I decided to take a chance on them. After getting them I figured it would be a good idea to get some kind of comparison to US-made primers so I decided to test them against Federal Small Magnum Pistol primers.
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My test was to fire loads with no powder and see how the primers performed. I decided to use the Saeco 158 gr. SWC and a .375" ball. The SWC would be loaded with no crimp and with a crimp. I set up 8 sections of cardboard as a backstop.
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The test would be fired with my S&W Model 340 that has a 1.75" barrel.
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Measurements would be with my Browne and Sharp calipers.
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I loaded the Argentine primed, uncrimped load and from a distance of about 6" to the cardboard I pulled the trigger, resulting in a loud POP but nothing exiting the barrel. Then I measured where the bullet stopped in the bore. I apologize for the unfocused photo. I did not pay attention to the camera in my haste.
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1.75" minus .78 equals .97" down the bore.
I shoved the bullet out of the bore with a brass rod.
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Next I loaded the crimped round. When I pulled the trigger all I got was the CLICK of the hammer dropping. I pulled the cartridge and found the bullet still crimped in place.
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Pulling the bullet showed the primer had fired.
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I did this test years ago in my Ruger single action .357 using the Keith SWC and Small Rifle primer. It broke the crimp and pushed the bullet about a half inch into the bore.
Next I loaded the round ball load and about 6" from the cardboard I pulled the trigger. At the shot the ball hit the cardboard and bounced back onto the floor.
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The cardboard had a small dent.
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I then took the loads with the Federal Small Magnum pistol primers and tried them. The first was the 158 gr. Saeco SWC uncrimped. It popped the bullet down the bore.
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1.75" minus 1.02" equals .73"
After getting the bullet out of the barrel I tried the crimped bullet load and had the same results as the first. The bullet did not move. Then I loaded the .375" round ball load. At the shot nothing came out of the barrel. I opened the cylinder and found the ball in the end of the chamber.
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To make sure I fired on more. This one popped the ball just past the forcing cone.
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To keep things equal I fired one more ball load using the Argentine primers. This load popped the ball almost to the end of the bore.
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So the Argentine primers seem to have good power. I am not loading hot loads with them so it probably doesn't matter, but it was interesting to do.
Chronographing would tell more but for my purposes this was enough.
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Complete thread:
- I ran across a deal on Small Pistol Primers .... -
JimT,
2024-08-28, 10:44
- Good method to obtain a relative comparison -
JohnKDM,
2024-08-28, 20:47
- Very Interesting. (nt) - JimT, 2024-08-28, 22:03
- Good method to obtain a relative comparison - Slow Hand, 2024-09-07, 18:52
- Good method to obtain a relative comparison -
JohnKDM,
2024-08-28, 20:47