Playing With The 9EM EM - IT'S A DEATH RAY!

by JimT, Texas, Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 09:05 (724 days ago)

A couple years ago I realized I did not have the latest and greatest handgun .. a 9 millimeter .. so named (I think) because .35 Automatic was not as attractive. Anyway I found a good deal on a Star BM and picked it up. Nice all steel gun .. no plastic .. made to last millennia and will not melt if your significant other unknowingly turns on the warming over where you hid your plastic wonder and did not tell anyone.

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Anyway ... I was sitting around with nothing to do and got to wondering how the little 35 caliber slugs would perform if I modified them. I had a bunch of Bear Creek Supply's 125 gr. roundnose lead bullets ...
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and a bunch of Berrys 124 gr. round nose double plated bullets ..

So I made a tool to modify them.
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It removed about 2 gr. from each bullet.

The Bear Creek bullet is a different length and I had to make a spacer so it was in proper position to modify.

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This removed about 3 gr. from the lead bullets.

I loaded them with 5.8 gr. of Unique and a CCI Standard Small Pistol primer.

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Then I filled a 6 gallon bucket with sand and set it on top of 4" of pine boards just in case. I have shot into sand before and it stops bullets quite rapidly .. but you want to be a little cautious.

I fired each load straight down into the bucket. First I fired unmodified bullets.

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Bear Creek Supply not modified - recovered weight 121.1 grains.

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Berry's Double Plated not modified - recovered weight 123.9 grains.

Then I fired the modified bullets into the bucket of sand.

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Bear Creek modified - recovered weight 121.9 grains.

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Berry's Double Plated modified - recovered weight 122.2 grains.

This test does not indicated how the bullets will perform in flesh. I was just wanting to see
how much flattening the nose of the bullet would affect it. If a person wanted to modify these
for hunting or self-defense further tests in a proper medium would be required. I did find it
interesting that neither bullet lost weight, though I don't know that really indicates anything. To obtain really valid data the bullets should be shot in other media and a large number should be fired.

But this was fun!

Yes .. I actually carried the Star 9em em as my CCW gun ... once. Just so I could say I did it.

I'm a bullet nose sawer/filer from way back.....

by RayLee, Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 09:29 (724 days ago) @ JimT

Of late I've been using this on rifle bullets and already loaded handgun ammo.....

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a hobby cutoff saw from harbor freight.

Just a gentle kiss against the side of a bench grinding wheel using the safety housing edge as a guide/rest is the fastest and easiest way but is not exact and as repeatable as a trim die. Mind, use the side of the wheel. The lead/copper clogs the face quickly.

Also with that bear creek bullet.....

by RayLee, Thursday, December 01, 2022, 06:25 (723 days ago) @ JimT

I believe I would just stand them one at a time on the anvil of the bench vise and smack them on the noses with a hammer. The ones that inevitably fatten by the foreshortening would be used in the .38s. The website advises to go right ahead and roll crimp right into the lead through the coating.

Am hoping.....

by RayLee, Thursday, December 01, 2022, 06:28 (723 days ago) @ RayLee

try this one in the .45/.480 pseudo achilles.....

https://www.bearcreeksupplybullets.com/455-webley

and maybe.....

by RayLee, Thursday, December 01, 2022, 06:29 (723 days ago) @ RayLee

in the uberti walker tambien.....

That'll work. For me it's more fun to shoot them ...

by JimT, Texas, Thursday, December 01, 2022, 08:03 (723 days ago) @ RayLee

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I had a BM (please hold your snickers).

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Saturday, December 03, 2022, 18:58 (721 days ago) @ JimT

It was/is a very decent little pistol. Somewhat heavy for the overall size but, hey, it's all steel. I had to play with recoil springs to make it eat whatever I fed it but, once it was tuned in, it was very reliable. I ended up giving it to one of my sons as a birthday present and kind of wish I hadn't. Oh well.

I had a BM (please hold your snickers).

by Catoosa, Tuesday, December 06, 2022, 09:39 (718 days ago) @ Hoot

Good little guns. I've got three of them in various stages of condition from almost new to carried and used for 20+ years by some Spanish cop. All three are stone reliable after replacing the recoil springs with the standard Wolff springs. Would not hesitate to use one for EDC (and have done so).

Only caution is that some have inertial firing pins and some do not. Can't safely carry one with the hammer down on a chambered round. OTOH, it has one of the best manual safeties to be found. Locks the hammer as well as the sear. Condition one carry is no problem.

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