Reminds me a conversation I had with one of our members when I was pastor. He told me he carried at church and I could count him if needed. I told him I was pleased to hear that. He then said he wouldn't tell me who else at church carried, but to start watching where certain people sat and how well this or that part of the church could be covered from that vantage point. Seems several of the members had gotten together and planned everything out and just wanted me to distract as needed until they could draw a safe bead. I was very pleased. :)

A fellow Sunday school scholar's son who lived over in Atlanta with his mom was crazy for soviet block weapons so I loaned the dad and boy a cardboard box full of pistols and ammo for a Saturday afternoon's shooting --- makarovs, tokarevs, cz52, cz70, nagant revolver etc.

Next day after services the dad said he had the guns in the trunk of his car....there they lay on a blanket but the box was missing and the leftover loaded shells and some of the spent brass and spare magazines were in a much smaller box....when asked about the larger cardboard box the guy simply advised me to just put the guns in my pockets and mexican carry in waistband to get them descreetly to my truck

Had to tell him I could not do that because all four of my trouser pockets were already full of guns plus two in the inside jacket pockets as well....when asked why six guns at church, I replied "It ain't a freedom unless you actually practice it !" There were actually a total of 7....forgot to count the one in my sock.

The problem sometime is convincing people that you should exercise some security precautions. Then there's the guy that thinks the church door should always be open. A small congregation like ours also gets complacent. But there are still two of us always armed plus one watching the security camera video feeds.

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