Savage 99, .30-40 Krag?
I found a 99 that serials to 1900. The barrel is marked .30 Cal. That's it. The guy at the shop says the fellow that brought it in said it was a .30-30, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it is actually a .30-40. Would not the barrel be marked .30 WCF if it was a .30-30?
Asking price is $479.00 The condition is very nice, except the butt stock is a Fajen replacement.
Buy it if it is in any kind of condition.
We can figure out the rest later. Good price on a decent levergun.
This is what I was thinking.
For a 1900 gun, it is very nice.
$479 ! ! !....Its worth that.....
just to hand over the fireplace.....but I know it ain't gonna be no 30-40.....can't fit....laws of physics and all that....if anybody says they have a savage 95-99 in 30-40, well it ain't the krag one.....thinking maybe someone has the savage confused with the '95 winchester.....
Further research finds
That that Savage did some of the 1895 guns in .30-40 for Army trials. I can't find anything other than that. Looks like the 1899s were first .303 Savage and.30 WCF. I still may go get it. Too clean to not pick up for a nice old shooter, and one I actually can get ammo for.
Further research finds
Those 1895s in .30-40 Krag had a longer receiver, and looked a fair amount different.
One thing to watch for on early 99s is whether or not the rear of the bolt is flat or curved. Early bolts with flat rear surfaces caused stress fractures of the receiver. Bad juju bwana.
Most likely a .30-30 btw
Otony
Jump to a Desert Eagle .357.
I have one of those on layaway, and the price is only a bit more than the Savage. I should probably get it paid off and home. In all honesty, I'll use it more.
$5 against a stale donut
that its a 303 Savage. Didn't the .303 savage use .308 190 grain bullets?
I've had two 99's, 3o years apart...
both 308's that worked well and shot OK with 150's. But with warm 180's they'd both fail to extract occasionally. That last one was slated to go to AK in '08 and got left behind because it wasn't trustworthy. I worked on a 308 99C for a friend, that one didn't want to feed any factory load.
I love 99's and I think they're great in their flagship calibers, but I am pretty much over them as serious, hard-use rifles. And I really wanted one in 358 or 375 Win,
303 Savage used .311 bullets
of 190 grains, according to both "Cartridges of the World" and Ken Howell's "Custom Cartridges". 150 to 180 grain .311" bullets intended for the 303 British should work well in the 303 Savage.
THE 303 I SLUGGED HAD A
.3080" BORE.
I think that I have read that those old .303 guns had both
.311 and .308 groove diameters but it depends on the era. More likely .311 early on. Things in that regard were still getting sorted out as people did the natural thing and tried to standardize various aspects of the shooting equipment such as bullets.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
303 Savage used .311 bullets
Used to be a "niche thing" to take the 190 grain .303 Savage bullets and load them into .30-30 cases to give the 94 carbines a tad more punch. I always read that those slugs were .308, but I won't argue with COTW (even though it is riddled with mistakes)
Otony
I have a bunch of .303 Savage bullets, .3082" 190 gr.
as I was going to try that and then decided that someday I might get a .303 and would want those bullets for that. By bunch I mean a couple hundred... Anyway, I have read that some bullets were .311-.312...
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Sincerely,
Hobie