bp clean up, hot water or cold?

by cr., Friday, March 18, 2016, 23:12 (3160 days ago)

I have always used hot water to clean up after black powder session. Not because hot water has better solvent capabilities but line of thinking is that it will evaporate quickly thus easier to get dry enough for oiling for storage.

I am an accumulator of cast iron skillets, kettles, pots of all kinds. Lye bath, molasses soak, electrolosis tank, elbow grease and multiple seasoning has turned many a five dollar crusty into a top notch user or semi valuable collector piece. Final rinse before first coat of season...same idea with hot water instead of cold. Hot water will evaporate quickly and be gone. Always get some flash rust that easily comes off with initial greasing.

Old time collector told me to use cold water and just towel off until dry and would not get flash rust. He was right. No flash rust.

If it works with a skillet... Gonna start using cold water for bp clean up.

Simple Green, toothbrush, Rinse w boiling H2O, Ballistol

by ERSisk @, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 00:01 (3160 days ago) @ cr.

Boiling water heats everything up so it dries instantly, gun steels don't flash rust like cast iron. Then spray down with Ballistol. I don't know exactly what is in Simple Green but it cuts black powder residue better than anything else I have tried including Windex. Any southern boy can tell you heat is a catalyst. That's why sweet tea is made hot then cooled. Ever try to sweeten Iced tea.

bp clean up, hot water or cold?

by Jhenry, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 04:46 (3160 days ago) @ cr.

The best thing I have ever used for black powder cleanup is a 1/3 ratio mixture of Murphy's Oil Soap, drug store hydrogen peroxide and rubbing alcohol. It's and old recipe used by match shooters and works like magic. Sunlight degrades the effectiveness so keep it in a dark container. No hot water, no cold water. Just this stuff and then grease it for any storage as usual.

bp clean up, hot water or cold?

by uncowboy, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 08:14 (3160 days ago) @ Jhenry

SIMPLE GREEN HERE also use it for patch lube.

Thanks!

by BC, IA, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 09:07 (3159 days ago) @ Jhenry

Great info.

BLASPHEMER!

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 12:17 (3159 days ago) @ cr.

Hot soapy water, in the wife's clean sink, while she watches... ;-)

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Of the Troops & For the Troops

I don't use water anymore.

by cas, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 16:43 (3159 days ago) @ cr.
edited by cas, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 22:35

At least the way I used to. I clean with Windex with vinegar and that's it. I found I didn't need the effort and added mess cleaning them the way I used to with buckets of hot soapy water and what not.
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(I don't like Simple Green for anything. lol I cough enough from the Balistol, I don't need to cough from Simple Green)

bp clean up, hot water or cold?

by Sarge ⌂ @, Central Misery, Saturday, March 19, 2016, 18:35 (3159 days ago) @ cr.

I routinely use about a double shot of Murphy's Oil Soap, in a 3# coffee can of near-boiling water, anytime I thoroughly clean my front loaders. The metal gets hot enough to almost dry itself, or you can dry them off with a hair dryer, etc. The Murphys forms a protective coat that lasts weeks or months. Been using it for ages.

This provides sufficient volume to submerge the cylinder & Barrel (one end at at time) so they can soak a few minutes. With rifles, I pull the barrel off, unscrew the nipple and then submerge the breech end in the solution. Using a tight patch, pump the hot solution in and out of the bore. The very hot water and Muprhys work together as a hellacious crud cutter, combined with the patch.

That is exactly the way I do it.

by cr., Sunday, March 20, 2016, 06:43 (3159 days ago) @ Sarge

I am curios now about hot vs cold after seeing the difference in flash rust with cast iron. Then again, if you apply the oil immediately, I doubt flash rust hurts anything. Maybe steel does not flash rust as bad as cast iron, never really noticed it to be a problem.

That is exactly the way I do it.

by Sarge ⌂ @, Central Misery, Sunday, March 20, 2016, 08:37 (3159 days ago) @ cr.

One of my old guns is naturally rust-browned...

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and the other one is 'in the white'...

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Works fine on both but I am a big believer of scalding water being key to this method because it opens the pores of the metal and speeds the drying process.

But I are not an eggspurt, scientist or metallurgist. Just found something that works and am disinclined to fix it.

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