Let's talk Sharps rifles...

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 14:14 (3175 days ago)

I see that Cubrock and others are wanting one. I recently passed on a nice Shiloh in 45-120. I wasn't that concerned about the recoil but they seem to be a little hard to shoot consistently. You could say recoil but there's a lot going on in that long case of BP too. Consistency is important.

Who's into Sharps rifles? What do you have? Who wants one?

I really miss my Shiloh in 50-90. It was so beautiful. This photo was shot in Rob Leahy's yard in Alaska. We lived about 15 minutes away from each other.

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Oh mammie!

by cr., Thursday, March 03, 2016, 14:21 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

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I know JD has a nice Shiloh. Killebrew too! NT

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 14:36 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

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Yes, I have a Shiloh Long Range Express 45-70

by JD, Western Washington, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 14:55 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

It has upgraded wood, pewter forend tip, checkered steel shotgun buttplate, heavy half round half octagon barrel, and soule sights manufactured by a local machinist that does great work.... It's a BEAUTIFUL rifle... And, no Bryan, you can't have it.... :-D :-D

It also goes well with my 45-70 Browning Black Powder Cartridge Rifle. They are a great rendition of the Winchester 1885 falling block that Browning did an excellent job creating, with pretty wood, heavy half round half octagon Badger barrel, very good soule sights, set trigger, very nicely done but they don't seem to have the following that a Sharps has....

Did I shoot that one? Yours is very nice.

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 15:03 (3175 days ago) @ JD

The Long Range Express is my fav version.

I think my Shiloh might be "everything I always wanted..."

by cas, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:32 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet
edited by cas, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:35

"...before I knew what I wanted." :-D

A .50-90 Hartford model.

When I got it, and was shooting it a lot, I didn't mind it. It likes bullets in the 700 grain range, when I shot it often I didn't notice the recoil. Now it knocks me about a bit. Uses lead and powder in huge gulps. Might be too long, is too heavy to hunt with enjoyably. And in all honesty I don't know if I care for the Sharps design as much as I thought I would.

Plus to pay for it I sold two rolling blocks which I really miss (I found I like rolling blocks more than I thought.) I sold an M1 Garand, a SIG P226, my 50 Beowulf upper, a Mosin Nagant and a few other guns. I think 10 or 12 in total, some cheap ones, but it was the thought.


I was shooting black powder, casting and rolling paper patch bullets. Now I just don't seem to have the time. I don't think I've fired it in 2-3 years. And not all that much in the 2-3 years prior. I find myself wishing I'd gotten a smaller bore I could load smokless in.


Never did take any good photos of it.
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What are the particulars on yours?

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:39 (3175 days ago) @ cas

Looks nice.

i don't remember. lol

by cas, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:45 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet
edited by cas, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:48

A .50-90 Hartford model with a shotgun butt stock. I upgraded the wood a step or two. I don't recall the barrel length off the top of my head. 28 or 30? Dunno. I added an MVA midrange tang sight for it that makes it much more accurate, but to me, less enjoyable to shoot.


I went through Bill Goodman, paid the couple hundred extra to not wait a few years for it. Think it was in the $2800 range in 2007-2008? Which was more than I was expecting, sooner than I was expecting. I remember panicking to come up with the balance.

Very similar to mine...

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 16:50 (3175 days ago) @ cas

I also got mine through Goodman with very similar specs. Mine was 32".

Yes, I've shot it some, but just with smokeless loads...

by JD, Western Washington, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:05 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

Smokeless loads with my cast bullets. Either Lyman 475 grain pointed spitzer or SAECO 540 grain semi-roundnose. It shoots quite well and lots of fun.... :-) :-)

50/90 is the one i want too.

by cable, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:29 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

:-D

Hey, Bryan... How about a Browning 1885...

by JD, Western Washington, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:29 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

If you're not set on a Sharps, you might be able to talk me out of my Browning 1885 Traditonal Hunter in 45-70. I got it from Marty and I've never shot it, mainly because it is light enough that with my cast bullet long range loads I know it will kick the snot out of me. But hey, you LIKE rifles that kick the snot out of you.... I have it mainly to go with my 30-30 and 38-55 Traditional Hunters, which I really like and are FUN to shoot (and don't leave large bruises when you are done...).

Not in the same class as a Sharps, but still not a bad traditional rifle....

Buy the one Cas has! NT

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:35 (3175 days ago) @ cable

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I had the one in 40-65 that I liked...

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:39 (3175 days ago) @ JD

that one was sold to a guy in Australia of all places. Cool rifle though.

I won't say no but for me this is an emotional not logical purchase. I just like the Sharps. I don't need either of them of course.

Jared also has one. Let's see some more! NT

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 17:41 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

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I'll eventually load some light weight bullets for it

by JD, Western Washington, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 18:31 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

Something like a 300 or 350 grain bullet at 1100 to 1200 fps. It should be fun with that type of load.... A 540 grain bullet at 1300 fps, not so much.....

Come on JD...

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 19:46 (3175 days ago) @ JD

the 50 Alaskan was 460's at 1900 out of the 20" barrel and weighed a lot less! Just think happy thoughts.

mcassill has one.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 20:00 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

I have an 'Italian before they were good' copy of the 54 caliber paper cartridge Sharps. Decent looking on the outside, rough as a cobb on the inside. It still goes KA-BOOM! when you light it off. Haven't played with it for a couple of years but I think it'll go piggie chasing one of these years.

Sharps and pigs go together. They were meant to meet. NT

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 20:03 (3175 days ago) @ Hoot

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Used to. Parted with it in a weak moment.

by mcassill, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 20:29 (3175 days ago) @ Hoot

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I would consider a BPCR. They are fun. NT

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 20:51 (3175 days ago) @ JD

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Yep, I want one

by Fivegunner @, LOWELL Mi., Thursday, March 03, 2016, 20:54 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

I always wanted a 45/120 but if I have one made I just might stay with the good old 45/70. some day.:-D

I know where there's a nice 45-120 with components for sale

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 21:10 (3175 days ago) @ Fivegunner

JD has seen and handled the gun. The shop is very reputable. If you want more info, let me know. It's $2300 with lots of extras.

shop info is...

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 21:17 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

Pinto's Guns in Renton, WA. Diana is the owner and very nice. I almost bought it and have no problem recommending it or the shop in general.

Shop phone is 425-227-9280. Tell her Bryan or John told you about the Shiloh Sharps. It's a nice gun with good wood and very clean. Bullets, brass, dies, etc.

I to have an EyeTalyin copy from the old Cape Outfitters

by ERSisk @, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 21:55 (3175 days ago) @ Hoot

Got it as part of a four way swap wit a box of Factory Black Powder Cartridges. It appears to be unfired. I might bring it along to CSA fer swappin material if any one is interested.

Particulars? Photos?

by Bryan Pettet, Thursday, March 03, 2016, 21:57 (3175 days ago) @ ERSisk

I'm looking for one but typically prefer Shiloh. Let's hear more about it?

Ohhh, bummer. That was a nice rifle.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, March 04, 2016, 04:52 (3175 days ago) @ mcassill

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Thanks for the info Bryan

by Fivegunner @, LOWELL Mi., Friday, March 04, 2016, 05:32 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

Its sounds like a great price, I just might have to give them a call. Thanks':-D

Let's talk Sharps rifles...

by Drago, Friday, March 04, 2016, 06:49 (3175 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

I was thinking of getting a Shiloh 1874 carbine in 45-70, but they don't make them anymore.:-( If I want a carbine I guess it will have to be an Eye-talian made one. :-|

Let's talk Sharps rifles...

by Brian A, Friday, March 04, 2016, 09:38 (3174 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

I have always been fascinated by Sharps rifles, yours was a real looker! A friend has an original 50/70 cavalry carbine and it is a tremendous amount of fun to shoot, even if the trigger pull feels like it must be 100 lbs. Maybe someday I will have the money to acquire one of my own, but there is so much that needs my attention first.

50/70 carbine...that's really cool. NT

by Bryan Pettet, Friday, March 04, 2016, 10:53 (3174 days ago) @ Brian A

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Let's talk Sharps rifles...

by Mark, Saturday, March 05, 2016, 19:55 (3173 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

I have Pedersoli 1874 Sharps replica in 45-70 (45-2.10). I installed Shaver Soule sights on it. It shoots great and is comfortable. I wanted a C. Sharps but due to cost, I went with the Pedersoli. I am happy with it. Truth be told, I just don't shoot it anymore. I considered selling it. It's a fun gun. Don't ignore the Pedersoli version.
Mark

Mark, there might be someone here that wants it. NT

by Bryan Pettet, Saturday, March 05, 2016, 20:39 (3173 days ago) @ Mark

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Mark, there might be someone here that wants it. NT

by Mark, Sunday, March 06, 2016, 08:44 (3172 days ago) @ Bryan Pettet

You're right. I should sell it. I would get more use out of the new 5 shot Bisley Blackhawk...

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