Is there any such thing as a 30-30 defense load?

by stonewalrus, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 11:07 (3321 days ago)

I have a "Searschester" 94 I was thinking of leaving out where I could get to it (only paid $100 and no sentimental value) but live in a subdivision. Looking online the only thing I could find even close is an outfit that makes rubber bullet ammo.

Is there any such thing as a 30-30 defense load?

by Drago, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 13:04 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus

I saw some Remington 125 grain ammo at BassPro.

Every Load is a self defense load in a 30-30... You just

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 15:45 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus

need to decide how much penetration your back stop will stand up to...

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LeveRevolution ammo

by Bruce in WV, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:21 (3321 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

The line of ammo uses a very good bullet design for SD. Not sure if they make it in 30-30, but if so, its GTG.

I'd go with varmint loads rather than ones for big game...

by mcassill, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:23 (3321 days ago) @ Bruce in WV

But that's just me

I have an opinion! I really think that the 125 gr Sierra HP

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:41 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus
edited by Hobie, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:48

is the bullet to use and I do believe Federal had a load using it. EVEN if it is the reduced recoil load (no I didn't look it up before posting) it would be dang good maybe even better if it is the reduced recoil load.

PS - I knew Federal had at least one such load. Remington has a reduced recoil load but my limited experience with this bullet would indicate that it might not be the best choice but would work depending on what you're defending against (of course).

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Exactly. NT

by mcassill, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:51 (3321 days ago) @ Hobie

.

Is there any such thing as a 30-30 defense load?

by Sarge ⌂ @, Central Misery, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 18:24 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus

I've seen a few people who were shot with them. Any 150 grain soft-point will work fine. You're liable to get through & through penetration, but it's damned unlikely you're going to need to shoot him a second time.

I'm just afraid there will be WAY too much penetration.

by stonewalrus, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 18:56 (3321 days ago) @ Sarge

Nm

I'm just afraid there will be WAY too much penetration.

by Catoosa, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 21:11 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus

If you ever shoot a .30-30 inside a structure, you will need a really good set of hearing aids from then on.

Just get another 10/22 and load it with Mini-Mag hollow points. They are reliable and not very expensive.

Great to see you checking in! And yes...

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, August 24, 2015, 11:50 (3319 days ago) @ Sarge

...;-)

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Years ago my BIL worked with a fellow who dispatched...

by cas, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 21:44 (3321 days ago) @ stonewalrus

...a bad guy who broke in through his apartment window in NYC. Shot him with a lever action 30-30 with a Remington Accelerator load. Apparently sent him to the big fire escape in the sky rather handily. Don't think they make those anymore do they?

We still have several boxes at the shop...

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, August 23, 2015, 08:05 (3320 days ago) @ cas

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I have a box that has been sitting behind the seat of my

by stonewalrus, Sunday, August 23, 2015, 19:25 (3320 days ago) @ Hobie

Pickup for 15 or so years. Not sure how reliable they would be now. Also with the pointed tip they probably wouldn't be safe in a Winchester 94 would they?

I don't think that they will recoil enough to set off a

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Monday, August 24, 2015, 06:00 (3319 days ago) @ stonewalrus

primer. There's been a lot of study on the subject and it seems to me that the risk of catastrophic destruction is much lower with certain cases loaded with smokeless than it was with a .45-70 Government round loaded with BP.

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Hobie

It's still an issue with heavy 45-70 loads

by mcassill, Monday, August 24, 2015, 08:25 (3319 days ago) @ Hobie

That was the reason BBA used small rifle primers for theirs.

We still have several boxes at the shop...

by Art @, Littleton, Colorado, Thursday, August 27, 2015, 11:33 (3316 days ago) @ Hobie

I have a partial box of those in 30-06. Kind of sliped my mind. Used them back in the 70's when the 30-06 was the only center fire I had and had to use it for every thing. Shot a small female coyote (ky-oat) in the neck and just about took her head off. Don't think I will ever use them again since I now have better rifles for that type of hunting.

You have at least one Mini 14... why would you use anything

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, August 24, 2015, 11:41 (3319 days ago) @ stonewalrus
edited by Rob Leahy, Monday, August 24, 2015, 15:12

besides having an extra,,,

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is it a Sal Minio 14?

by Otony, Monday, August 24, 2015, 11:50 (3319 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

Those are the best!

Otony

Looking to have a "beater" out that won't bother me as bad

by stonewalrus, Tuesday, August 25, 2015, 15:25 (3318 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

If it gets stolen.

secure your firearms!

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Tuesday, August 25, 2015, 17:53 (3318 days ago) @ stonewalrus

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Looking to have a "beater" out that won't bother me as bad

by Catoosa, Wednesday, August 26, 2015, 09:26 (3317 days ago) @ stonewalrus

Tom, where you live, a lever action .30-30 doesn't work well as a house gun. Too many houses around close. There are lots of cheap beater shotguns to be had that will work better. and be safer to boot. Even a Marlin .22 auto would do for that duty. The one that sits behind my bedroom door is one of the old M2 carbine versions. $110 otd at Tim's pawmshop, and it is accurate and reliable as long as it's fed good ammo. Got an SKS carbine handy, but it's for outside.

Looking to have a "beater" out that won't bother me as bad

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, August 26, 2015, 11:52 (3317 days ago) @ Catoosa

With a youngun in the house I was figuring I could run a cable through a pump shotgun action anchored to a wall stud and still have rounds up the tube. Would be hard to have a decent cable through a 22.

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