Waaay OT: Vietnam vet question

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, August 21, 2015, 21:18 (3372 days ago)

Could a fellow born in 1957, 58 years old, have served in Vietnam?

Ran into a guy at the local tonight. He made a big deal about serving in 'Nam and how the war didn't really end with the evacuation of the embassy. And about how most people thought he was full of it.

I will admit to the fact that I believed the war to be over/finished when the Hueys pulled the last of ours off the embassy roof.

What happened after that?

I'll be looking to Mr. Google but will appreciate any input.

Thank you.

Born in 1955 I say no.

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Friday, August 21, 2015, 21:44 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

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Hobie

Born in 1955 too.

by Drago, Friday, August 21, 2015, 21:54 (3372 days ago) @ Hobie

When I went in to register for the draft in October 1973, I was classified as 1H (Holding)and the draft was abolished six moths after that. He's a wannabe INMNSHO. There's a lot of them out there.

no! Same age as me. I never even had a draft card. They

by stonewalrus, Friday, August 21, 2015, 22:20 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

Stopped the draft right before I turned 18 and started registration back up when I was 26.

U.S. involvement ended 1975

by bj @, Friday, August 21, 2015, 22:26 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

per Wikipedia.

So someone born in 1958 would have been 17 years old, too old for the draft and probably too old to have enlisted. Someone born in January 1957 could have enlisted on their 18th birthday and served a few months.

There are numerous instances of "under age" troops in VN

by cas, Friday, August 21, 2015, 22:37 (3372 days ago) @ bj

...but Id say its pretty unlikely.

Dan Bullock was the youngest US soldier killed at 15. Two days before I was born.

ask to see his dd214. He'll have multiple copies

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Friday, August 21, 2015, 22:57 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

they are needed for ANY VA related activity; medical, dental school, home loans...
Send an Email to veriseal.org. Sounds like a stolen valor case...

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And those clowns never claim they were supply clerks...

by mcassill, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 15:44 (3372 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

or whatnot. I usually run into the ones covered in Force Recon regalia with wild stories of guarding the CIA dope farms in Cambodia or some such nonsense. Had one coworker a few years ago spinning yarns of having been a Force Recon sniper, and claimed the Marine Corps gave him his sniper rifle when he got out. Yeah, right. The next few months dealing with him confirmed my initial impression that he was a POS.
Old age seems to be making me less tolerant of such antics. Go figure.

I had a guy who made such claims who spent his 12 months

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 18:12 (3372 days ago) @ mcassill

baking bread. How he thought that his personnel NCO wasn't going to get his actual record is beyond me.

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Hobie

Oh Lord, that's just stupid.

by mcassill, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 19:43 (3372 days ago) @ Hobie

Far from the only one who's done that, unfortunately. Some years ago the Army had a rash of officers - people who really ought to know better - throwing on extra ribbons for their official portraits. Of course, the promotion boards had before them the documentation for what each one had actually earned. Uncle ended up making an example out of some to slow down that kind of garbage.

I know a local fellow here who is very proud.....

by Otony, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 20:05 (3371 days ago) @ Hobie

,.......of the fact that he was a cook on a Navy ship in Vietnam. He fed sailors and was in the Nam. Not a hero. A cook.

Ya gotta have cooks too......

Otony

I had a math teacher who told us how "math saved my life".

by cas, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 21:51 (3371 days ago) @ Otony

Because of his math skills he spent his year in the rear plotting artillery, rather than out in the bush where it was landing. :-D

yep, still have mine....needed it recently when getting

by cable, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 16:45 (3372 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

application for suppressor approved :-D

Born Aug.1950 was RA 12B30 71 to 73 no newtroops or military

by ERSisk, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 01:41 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

support after 1973 if memory serves. Any thing is possible but assuming enlistment Jan 1975 8wks basic +8wks AIT gets him to May, Fall of Saigon was April 30 but war for US army was officially over months before that. Navy was still offshore in South China sea.

I was born in January 1957

by Frank S, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 05:10 (3372 days ago) @ ERSisk

And Joined the Navy in 1975...enlisted.....I am not a Vietnam vet! It would not have been possible.

Thanks fellas.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 05:17 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

My BS alarms were ringing but I let it slide.

I was born in '56 and had a draft number but was never called.

I should add that...

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 07:10 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

Possibility does not equal probability and...

I was in Korea in April 1975 and had been in service since June 1973.

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Waaay OT: Vietnam vet question

by Bob Hatfield @, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 15:47 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot
edited by Bob Hatfield, Monday, August 24, 2015, 05:23

Well the last battle of the VN war was the battle of Koh Tang in 1975. Three Marines were left on the island and the Khymer Rouge executed them. So I doubt being born in 1957 you would have been there. 1955 maybe. Seems like there were some born in 1955 were there for a little while but I'll bet not in any combat role for sure.

Bob

And usually with those BS artists...

by mcassill, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 17:22 (3372 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield

If you do enough digging you find the real story is that they never served at all.

not unless he volunteered and lied about his age.

by cable, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 16:43 (3372 days ago) @ Hoot

folks did that in WWII but doubt it happened much in the vietnam war.

It did happen but less often successfully because of better

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Saturday, August 22, 2015, 18:13 (3372 days ago) @ cable

record keeping AND a greater desire to keep kids out of the service.

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This Whole Thread reminds Me...

by Drago, Monday, August 24, 2015, 15:20 (3370 days ago) @ Hoot

of a time many years ago when a couple of co-workers were discussing their time in the 25th Infantry. They looked at me as if to say, "You can join in." I said in my best accent, " I vaz in zee Afrika Korps myzelf." :-D

Don Shiply...

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, August 24, 2015, 17:24 (3370 days ago) @ Drago

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