Questions for Texans

by Dave B @, Alamogordo New Mexico, Saturday, July 12, 2014, 20:11 (3778 days ago)

So how difficult is it for the average person to find a place to shoot? I hear it is very expensive to hunt if you don't have the $$ to buy land. Just curious, been looking at some positions at Randolph outside San Antonio.

yes it is difficult

by bj2, Saturday, July 12, 2014, 21:16 (3778 days ago) @ Dave B

There is very little public land to use, and what public land there is is probably regulated by somebody.

Hunting is big business here. If you don't have friends or relatives with land that you can use, you have to pay to hunt or shoot. Consequently I don't hunt, and I had to join a shooting club to have a place to shoot. But if you are willing to pay, it is probably pretty easy to find places to hunt and there a lot of shooting ranges around.

Agreed....

by rob @, Sunday, July 13, 2014, 14:41 (3778 days ago) @ bj2

I love Texas but one thing I'm a bit jealous of some of the states like New Mexico and Arizona is all the public land. I really wish I had a place I could go set up my own range and practice drills or long range shooting on like Nutnfancy does in a lot of his you tube videos. Texas is a pay to play state but at least there are jobs and a decent economy. My number one goal is to find land I can shoot on and build a shop out back to work on cars and work for myself until I can't turn another wrench. Probably gonna be a few years but I'm committed to making it happen.

It all depends...

by Charles, Sunday, July 13, 2014, 15:35 (3778 days ago) @ Dave B

on your point of view. I am a life long Texan and a life long shooter, so finding a place to shoot has never been much of an issue. There are plenty of gun clubs and private ranges, so that just isn't an issue.

Now if you are talking about a place to hunt, that is a different issue altogether. As stated, there is very little private land and most hunting is on a fee basis or a group of people have a hunting lease. I have never found this to be a burdensome concept and it is an important source of income for farmers and ranchers.

Frankly, I am not a fan of the public land thingie. I lived in New Mexico a couple of times and the public land hunting gives me the willies. There is no telling what idiot is out there watching you through a scope or willing to take a "sound shot". On hunting leases, you can be selective on who hunts there, where they are on any give day and careless people or drunks are given the boot. It is my opinion that hunting is Texas is safer than places with abundant public land.

Like I said, it all depends on your point of view. I am not the least bit envious of folks with lots of public land. It really isn't public anyway, the state or federal government is making all the rules and pulling all the strings.

+1 on what Charles said.

by MR, Sunday, July 13, 2014, 15:52 (3777 days ago) @ Charles

I would bet there are numerous ranges in San Antonio. High end indoor shooting clubs are starting to pop up in DFW.

It's the square ranges...

by rob @, Sunday, July 13, 2014, 19:47 (3777 days ago) @ MR

With the obviously necessary rules I want to break away from. You almost have to own your own land to shoot a tin can anymore. I can't even use a bullet trap at the gun club I'm a member at. Everything has to be approved by the board. I do, however, agree with Charles about the hunting. If I owned land in NM, I would not want hunters on it that I didn't approve of and they do not get a say so if my understanding is correct.

I'M WITH YOU CHARLES!

by SIXGUNNER, Sunday, July 13, 2014, 16:38 (3777 days ago) @ Charles

WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF FEDERAL LAND HERE IN IDAHO BUT I GAVE UP HUNTING ON ANYTHING BUT PRIVATE LAND MANY YEARS AGO.

I am a big fan of public hunting land...

by Brian A, Monday, July 14, 2014, 08:12 (3777 days ago) @ Charles

I live in the middle of at least a half million acres of public hunting land. Here in MI, even private land hunters have to abide by state harvest regulations for wild game and purchase a state hunting license. The only exception to that are totally enclosed facilities with privately bred animals. The problems of people doing stupid things on public lands has been greatly reduced since they started requiring all hunters to take hunter safety courses. In fact, it is exceedingly rare for anyone to be hurt by the careless acts of another during the hunting seasons, in spite of nearly 1 million licensed hunters being in the fields every year. The TSMS was held at a couple different locations on public land without issue and anyone from the public is welcome to shoot there throughout the year without any permits required, or fees charged, at all. I appreciate the benefits of hunting on private land and would love to some day be able to afford hunting land of my own, which could be managed as I see fit, but until than am grateful for the abundant public hunting lands here.

Here in NM

by Dave B @, Alamogordo New Mexico, Monday, July 14, 2014, 13:14 (3777 days ago) @ Charles

We have drastically reduced the number of hunting accidents by the Hunter's Education requirement. I whole heartedly agree with the public land sentiment, being of the upper lower class(just kidding, I have no class), I am still thankful I do have public land to hunt, it is nearby, and costs me $5/year for the permit. I'm not sure how the average Joe will be able to afford to hunt in the future the way prices are going, being a disabled veteran, I do get a break in the cost of a license. My dream is to own enough property for a shooting range, hell I'd probably settle for an archery range, and enough to hunt deer, I fear elk will soon be beyond my budget. They are trying to make it so a guy with a Jeep can't get into the forest unless it's blacktop, the little 4 wheelers are in their sights as well. Fact is, more people equals more competition, we've still got room to grow, but at what expense, and around here, it's "where's the water".

Dave

Questions for Texans

by altejaeger @, Kerrville, TX, Tuesday, July 15, 2014, 15:00 (3776 days ago) @ Dave B

Dave: Unless the position your lookin at is a once in a life time offer, I'd stay in
Alamogordo. San Antonio is a huge city with it attendant crime and taxes. I live 70 mils due West off I10. Is a nice laid back town of 20,000,plus more when the snow birds arrive for the winter. Same problem here with hunting.I'd rather spend more and hunt WYo, MT, Nebr, with some friends and split the cost. Watch the evening news and all your hear about is shootings, stabbings, car theft, drug deals gone awry, etc. El Paso where I lived for 33 yrs is basically the same and is fast becoming a 2d San Antonio if not already there.I left the demoralizing place 9 yrs ago. Randolph AFB is one of the cleanest military bases I have ever been on and I am retired military. Yes there are ranges and the cost in some areas is petty costly, plus a range fee each time you shoot. If you were raised in Texas then perhaps thru HS/College friends you might have a place to hunt. Ranchers/Farmers have no qualms about high leasing costs. Fine for those who can afford it, were raised in States ike Texs with little or no public lands. Take care and enjoy the cool Mts of Cloudcroft. :-)

Some years ago, I saw a billboard

by Charles, Thursday, July 17, 2014, 11:48 (3774 days ago) @ altejaeger

that read: "If you don't like Texas, the highway that brought you here will take you back where you came from.". Texans take a dim view of transplants who came here and then complain and carp about the place. It is probably a good indicator they made a mistake coming here in the first place. Texas is not for people who can't check their alien ways of thinking at the state line. Folks will never be happy anywhere as long as they are comparing it to a place they liked better.

My family came to Texas and fought the Mexicans and Comanche to make it an Independent Republic and then a State. We have ploughed six generations of blood, sweat and tears into Texas and we didn't do it for some foreigners to move in and want it to be like where they came from. Two months back, I heard a dark skinned fellow saying he missed the smells of India. We get a mite frosty when we hear that kind of stuff. I will let you intuit what I said to him.

Thank you sir

by Dave B @, Alamogordo New Mexico, Thursday, July 17, 2014, 14:06 (3774 days ago) @ altejaeger

I appreciate all of the inputs, sounds like I better stay put, until I can find a way to move back home to Eastern Oregon (Idaho would do). I am at a disadvantage, being my Dad was an Air Force pilot, and and I was an avionics technician in the Air Force, so the only roots I had were in Oregon, and only lived there for a short while. I have lived from Alaska to South Carolina, started my education in Texas, finished in New Jersey. Once again, I appreciate the inputs, will enjoy the mts here whilst I can.

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