Anyone here a Webley MK IV "expert"?
by Hobie 
, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, March 16, 2014, 12:37 (3897 days ago)
edited by Hobie, Sunday, March 16, 2014, 12:49
I bought this Webley MK IV (a Singapore Police issue) because I was certain I could convert it back to SA/DA from DA only. I was pretty certain that this would only require a new hammer with the sear notch. I think it is safe to say that I assumed too much.
I ordered a replacement hammer from Apex Gun Parts and it came right away. Got gun and hammer the same day. Got time to mess with it today. This is not a particularly difficult gun to work on. However...
The Apex part does not have a firing pin so I had to move the pin from the original hammer to the "new" hammer. No difficulties there Hammer 1 is never fail to function albeit DA only. Guess what, hammer 2 is never fail to function... SA only. It will not function DA EXCEPT for the first time you try it after installation. And that part of it is really peculiar to me. It will correctly function the first trigger pull but thereafter it only advances the cylinder correctly and will not trigger cock the hammer. Is that odd or what? I haven't beat this but that wasn't the only surprise.
This gun has a hammer safety lever and two related parts (including the hammer safety lever) almost like the Enfield MK II revolver. The hammer was modified to function with the hammer safety lever but if you take it out, i.e. omit only the safety lever, then either hammer function just fine.
If anybody has any suggestions to get hammer 2 to work SA AND DA, I'd like to hear it. I'm going to go down and see if a couple of other things might work (there ain't a whole lot you can do in there). If not, I'm going to find a proper SA/DA gun and write this one off to a learning experience after returning to the condition in which it was received.
FWIW, the trigger pulls DA or SA with appropriate hammer aren't bad at all.
Oh, yes, I do have 500 pieces of .38 S&W brass headed here from Starline... 
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Anyone here a Webley MK IV "expert"?
by Bob Hatfield , Monday, March 17, 2014, 17:36 (3896 days ago) @ Hobie
Not an expert here but I bought a Mk VI 455 Enfield last Saturday along with 6 boxes of WWII dated ammo and a WWII dated Pattern 37 holster, belt and ammo pouch.
I have always wondered about converting a 38 Enfield Mk II* back to the way it originally was.
Seems like when I Google up information about my 455 a British Military forum comes up with some knowledgeable persons on it.
I wonder if you can smooth up the DA hammer/trigger/sear to make it stack right before firing?
Bob
Well, I'm 20X the expert I was when I posted this.
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Monday, March 17, 2014, 18:37 (3896 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
edited by Hobie, Monday, March 17, 2014, 18:42
I've had the gun apart 50 times at least. Nothing to it now although the hammer lever on this one is a PITA due to its after-thought type design. Without it these guns are brutally simple. I don't quite see how one can do a "stack" without altering some machined camming surfaces. Then again, I'm not quite as expert as I'd like to be as I don't see how the two hammers I have are #1 DA only and #2 SA only (well, it is after the first go)...
I am not looking for a CORRECT MK IV .38 and likely a MK VI, even a shaved one (in which I'd shoot .45 AR correctly loaded). It is great that you can get brass for the .455 now as well as loaded ammo. Your find is extra cool!
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Sincerely,
Hobie