An explanation re: the friend mentioned in the post below...

by Otony, Thursday, January 30, 2014, 22:26 (3893 days ago)

I met Tom Austin in 1967 at Madrone Junior High School. We were instantly both friends and at odds with one another for the rest of our time spent together, a period of over 20 years.

Tom was one of those unfortunate fellows who is far more intelligent than virtually anyone around him, and yet was unable to apply that gift in a productive manner. He was, at times, the most brilliant person I had ever met, and the most exasperating, sometimes simultaneously.

His love for the outdoors, firearms, and fishing, was instilled in him by his father, Orville, and an older brother, Brian. Their family owned a small cabin in the northern California redwoods, and he set about mastering the ins and outs of backwoods living.

I mentioned arguing with him. Oh my, could he be contrary. He was on our school debate team, both in junior high and high school, and would argue a point at he drop of a hat. Honestly, I saw (and experienced!) him argue both sides of an issue more than once. Or argue his opponents side better, just to prove he could. I was a fan of Elmer beginning in the '60s, so of course Tom preferred Jack. We somehow managed to agree that Skeeter was more interesting, and had a healthy disregard for George Nonte for reasons I can no longer remember, but probably had to do with that mustache!

The times we had were shining, golden, despite his orneriness. We did a lot of outrageously fun things together, as well as a few incredibly dumb stunts, like all teenagers do. We discovered cars, girls, and alcohol, we took risks, we egged one another on. In short, we were friends, good friends.

As we matured (somewhat) Tom became more and more uncomfortable in his own skin. He was searching for, and failing to find, happiness and success. The worse it got, the more morose he became, at times paranoid to some degree about those whom he perceived as dragging him down. Once we had hit our mid-30s, he was well on the road to becoming a serious drunk. And if it were possible, he made the situation more difficult by beginning to offend and alienate total strangers who were simply in his path.

By 1989, I had had more than I could manage, the more so as three other dear friends of the same age were themselves undergoing battles with alcohol. It was more than I felt I could deal with, so I gently eased my self out of Tom's life, with a tremendous amount of regret. I know it hurt him terribly, but his actions had caused total strangers to fight with me, simply because I happened to be his friend. It was time to bow out, for my own well being.

About ten years ago, I started searching for Tom. His family had sold their home, his parents had passed on, and I was unable to locate either him or any of his siblings. I was hoping he had matured, and gotten into a program, and frankly, I was ashamed I hadn't stood by him. We had been like brothers, and regardless of his issues, I couldn't escape a feeling of having failed him. Foolish, perhaps, but that was how I felt.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I idly typed Tom's name into Google, and thought to add the name of our high school. I was stunned to find an obscure alumni website that listed him as one of the classmates who had passed away from our class. I also found contact information for one of his sisters. Writing her, and establishing a connection, I was shocked to discover Tom had taken his own life ten years ago, at roughly the same time I felt a need to search him out.

His alcoholism and depression had only increased over the years, and the passing of his father along with a recent divorce was apparently more than he could deal with.

I am having a tremendous amount of sadness and nostalgia about our friendship, plus a strong sense of having truly failed him. I am not so silly as to think myself responsible, but I certainly feel as though my turning my back on him may have contributed in some manner. Since discovering this news, not a day has gone by wherein I don't think of him, or one of our escapades. Let me put it another way. Growing up we both took extraordinary delight in Skeeter's "Me an Joe" stories. That was us, that was our friendship. And I miss him, I miss that companionship. Would that we could turn back time.....

Otony

An explanation re: the friend mentioned in the post below...

by uncowboy, Friday, January 31, 2014, 07:27 (3892 days ago) @ Otony

Tony, I know all too well of your sorrow having lost my best friend since 5th grade much in the same way. As far as you abandoning him don't believe it. My friend had the biggest support group that anyone could hope for and we were there for him and the more we tried to help the harder he pushed us away . He would hang with undesirables and people that have wronged him just because they accepted his behavior. If you tried harder to help your friend he would have walked away from you and the harder you fought to help the more he would have hurt you to push you away.
It is nice that you sensed he was hurting and tried to reach out but he also had the ability to type your name in a computer as well. I have learned that we can not take responsibility for what our friends do because in the long run it is what they did not what you didn't prevent. Hope you stop hurting soon, J.Michael

Thank you..

by Otony, Friday, January 31, 2014, 09:02 (3892 days ago) @ uncowboy
edited by Otony, Friday, January 31, 2014, 09:06

...I know you are right, everything you wrote makes sense. Guess I needed another perspective. Thanks for that.

Come to think of it, my parents were still in the same house all those years, and the wife and I ended up inheriting that same place and living there. I wasn't hard to find.

Otony

I'm sure a lot of us have had a friend like that.

by Wildcat, Flint Hills of Kansas, Friday, January 31, 2014, 08:20 (3892 days ago) @ Otony

My pal's name is Evan. We played football together and all the other high school stuff. While I went off to Kansas State for college, he stayed home and attended Emporia State. Drank his way out of both an academic and atheletic scholarship. Went into the Navy to set himself straight and got kicked out of sub school and who knows what else. Came back worse than before. Last I saw of him I pulled his butt out of the fire on a felony driving under the influence. Got it done, offered to take him to treatment etc. He didn't need help. Finally had enough. Still see his mom and she's effectively disowned him. Sad case. Hope he comes around but I'm not holding my breath.

Ach. Similar story with one of my friends, but

by brionic @, Friday, January 31, 2014, 10:33 (3892 days ago) @ Otony

our friendship started EARLY and ended in middle school. His demons had perturbed me for several years, and I, like you, ended up pulling back, to his dismay. We lost touch, reconnected, briefly, and then he somewhat infamously melted down and hanged himself a few years ago in such a way as to spur mayhem and attention, and to shame his parents.

Also, like you, an unexpected rush of emotion clobbered me, the navigation of which required some clear thinking.

I still wonder about it, while counseling myself.

In other, less rambling words, I hear you and likewise shake my head and quietly mutter, Otony.

I see good people everyday like this...

by woody, Friday, January 31, 2014, 18:54 (3892 days ago) @ Otony

I see people everyday that when not drinking or drugging are good people. But some people no matter how much help offered or how supportive their friends and family are will never change. Some people are set on a course of self destruction and will never change. Best thing is to stay out of their path. There was nothing you could have done to change him I'm sure. I know of one individual that's is the nicest guy but when he gets drinking it goes on for weeks and he usually ends up in jail for petty larceny for stealing beer. He is starting to show signs of wet brain. Sad since he is only about 35. He's a nice funny drunk just doesn't stop drinking like normal people do. On a side note if you have ever never seen anyone go through DT's that is an expirience!!

Most people will totally disagree with me on this but I do not consider alcoholism a disease. To drink excessively is a lifestyle choice or most a way of covering underlying problems. Self treating mental health problems,covering pain for things in their life, childhood, bad marriage etc. Just my opinion so everyone doesn't need to correct me on this.

Letting them go...

by Murphy @, Friday, January 31, 2014, 19:54 (3892 days ago) @ Otony
edited by Murphy, Friday, January 31, 2014, 20:01

Less than 3 hours ago, I had to do one the hardest things I've ever had to do.

8 years ago, I began a friendship with a young man I found in the court system. I knew if I could help him get turned around he'd make it. Sadly, He's bipolar and had been 'self medicating' for years.

As our journey began, he had to learn some things the hard way. Other times, he learned to trust and listen to the 'old man'. He got clean & sober, and became a productive member of society again. He became the son I never had and one of the few I allow inside my inner circle. Over years I've been his best man and many other things to him. A son was born to him who has become like a grandson to me.

This past summer, he and his wife began riverting to old ways. Back in August, he and his wife busted up and in September he tried taking his own life via overdose. His illness and addictions were taking him back. I did everything in my power in getting him to a facility, held on and prayed. Needless to say, he left the treatment facility and decided he didn't need them. He bounced from one place to the next for a place to stay.

4 years ago the opportunity to buy the house across the street from us came up and we purchased it. For 3 years we rented to one of my wifes friends. Little did we know she was a hoarder and the place became a nightmare. Finally the wife put her foot down to the ever growing piles around the house, said 'friend' decided to move. So, the house sat empty and up for sale for 8-9 months. We had one good 'bite' and the man put up earnest money. Unfortunately that fell through.

My friend (T.J) seemed to be doing some better and had a new gal in his life with two adorable little girls. To make a long story short we rented it to them. 3 weeks later they are no longer in 'love' and out she goes. T.J.'s decline began to worsen. One particular night pretty much about did me in. Loud music (to which he had already been told no 'bumming' the place with music), loud vehicles coming and going etc. The next day I had a serious and stern talk with him. It seemed to have worked and the place has stayed quiet.

Monday night about 10:30 T.J. called me from the local jail. I could tell he was under the influence and not making a lot of sense. He'd been arrested for burglarizing a vehicle and caught red handed by the police. I spoke to the arresting officer and T.J. was being held until they could take him before a judge the next morning.

Tuesday morning I got into my work truck and drove the short 1.5 miles to work. My old Ford has a split bench seat and I tuck various odd's and ends behind it. I was reaching for a pack of cigarettes and they were gone. Also, a spare shotgun barrel I kept back there was in my way. Something was wrong, very wrong. I dug a little deeper for a K frame .38 I keep in a hidey hole I can reach very quickly if the need arises, it was gone. My heart sank as I began thinking the worse.

I made arrangements for his former wife to pick up T.J.'s dog that was in the house. I met her at noon on my lunch break to let her in. And there on a speaker sat my holster. On the fireplace mantel, there sat my carton of cigarettes and the spare 'hidden' key to my Ford. Only he and one other person knew where that key stays hidden. And that person was home sick in bed and had been for 2 days.

Tuesday I was working just up the street from the local jail. I looked up and saw T.J. coming. His Ex had sprung from jail somehow. He began to speak and I lifted my hand as in 'stop'. "T.J., where is my gun?" He of course denied knowing anything about it. I told him 'One more time, where is my gun?'. He started off with some story and I didn't let him get 5 words out before I spoke. T.J. we're done...now git! I was angry and hurt, very hurt.

So this evening just after getting home from work, I walked over and knocked on his door. He came to the door and stepped out onto the porch at my request (he had company who didn't need to see or hear this, young ones).

I told him he had to be out of the house by Sunday evening. He knew and understood this was coming, he knows me well. I didn't bring up the gun, no need to...he knows I know the truth. His eyes filled with tears as he apologized and told me how sorry he was. I'll admit it, mine filled with tears as well. I reached up to hug and hold him one more time as we cried together. I told him I don't hate you son, I'll always love you. You're sick and I can't do anything more for you, but you must go now. I am deeply hurt because I can always get more 'stuff', best friends...I can't.

I have turned him over to God now, there is nothing left I can humanly do. And tomorrow will be no easier as I go to the local police department and file a stolen gun report. Friends, please send up some prayers for T.J.

Me? I'll be okay, just got some grieving to do for awhile.

Murphy

Letting them go...

by Paul ⌂, Saturday, February 01, 2014, 06:56 (3891 days ago) @ Murphy

Being bit by someone you've reached out to in love is one of the hardest things to face. Sure am sorry to hear this, Murph. We've had a few similar situations over the years. :(

My childhood best friend turned into a...

by cas, Friday, January 31, 2014, 23:06 (3892 days ago) @ Otony

…liberal college professor. :eyepopping: :-(

My childhood best friend turned into a...

by Paul ⌂, Saturday, February 01, 2014, 06:56 (3891 days ago) @ cas

Now THAT is a heart wrenching account!

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