Newer Marlin questions?
by woody, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:16 (4141 days ago)
edited by woody, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:22
Are all the new Marlin guns made by Remington marked made by Remington Ilion NY etc.? The reason I ask is my local Walmart has a youth 336 30-30 matte finish with laminate stock. The barrel is Marlin North Haven CT. Is it new gun old barrel? I always see reference to the JM with Marlins. Does that make it made in CT? The gun is neat nice short lever gun with 16" barrel. The stock is not really short it fits me. Most youth guns do especially after dressing to hunt. It would make a nice gun for doing drives. Thanks.
Woody, head on over to the Marlin Owners...
by pokynojoe, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:23 (4141 days ago) @ woody
site. There's quite a bit of information about just this topic. Apparently there was a transitional period during which Remington used some JM marked barrels stamped with the New Haven address. There's a number of threads over there that discuss this.
Joe
Thanks. That was my next stop....
by woody, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:25 (4141 days ago) @ pokynojoe
I might just pick it up. I was going to get another 357 1894 for the boys to use but may pick up the 30-30.
"REAL" 1894's in 357 are pretty pricey right now...
by pokynojoe, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:30 (4141 days ago) @ woody
and rather scarce, if you have access to one, I'd jump on it. Been look'in for one around here, and found a few, but there way out of my price range anymore. I bought a 1894P back in 2001 for $289 out the door up in a gun shop in Johnson City, TN. I've seen 'em for sale recently for upwards to $800! Wish I would've bought five of 'em.
Good luck
Joe
Hey Joe...
by Catoosa, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 22:11 (4141 days ago) @ pokynojoe
Do you know any history on your Model 94? Reason I ask is that I found one in a little hole-in-the-wall gun shop in Flintstone GA some years back. Gunshop guy said it was a tradein from the Johnson City PD. Pristine condition except for a perfect rusty handprint around the receiver. Looked like some cop had carried it around for a couple of hours on a hot summer afternoon and then put it back in the trunk of his cruiser without wiping it down. Doesn't affect the way it shoots.
No history to speak of...
by pokynojoe, Sunday, July 28, 2013, 07:17 (4141 days ago) @ Catoosa
I bought it new in the box(one of only a few I've ever bought new) at Crowder's Gun and Vacuum( I kid you not) in Johnson City. I worked up in the Johnson City area for four years from 2000-'04. Crowder's was just a mile down 11-W from Wiedner's, just before you get into Jonesborough. There used to be four gun shops just in that stretch of 11-W, not sure anymore, haven't been up that way in quite awhile. I used to stop in Wiedner's and buy primers, powder, etc. 1000 primers for $11.00! Guess those days are gone, and it wasn't that long ago.
Regards
Joe
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken...
by pokynojoe, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:26 (4141 days ago) @ pokynojoe
One sure way to tell is the serial number. I believe the general consensus is that a " Real" Marlin is stamped on the tang, Remlins are stamped on the receiver.
Here's the typical location for the JM stamp...
by pokynojoe, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 20:35 (4141 days ago) @ pokynojoe
Pretty crappy photo, but you get the idea.
Joe
Newer Marlin questions?
by jgt, Sunday, July 28, 2013, 07:12 (4141 days ago) @ woody
Woody, As with anything related to gun manufacturing there are no areas where we can say "this is how it is absolutely". Marlin was sold to the group owning Remington in late 2008 and in 2009 sent newhires to CT to train in the North Haven plant. The ATF gave them a grace period to use North Haven rollmarked barrels and Jm stamps during this time. These guns were built in late 2009 and 2010. After that, the tale tail signs on these transition guns is the serial numbers had a prefix of MR and was stamped on the reciever usually with only six number sometimes followed with an alphabetical letter such as "C", later they used a barrel stamp with the letters REM . The wood to metal fit was sloppy and usually proud of the metal. It was common to find screw head buggered from the factory. It was also common to find sights crooked on the barrel and in extreme cases the barrels threaded crooked in the recievers which showed up as a droup in the barrel.
"Real" Marlins had the serial numbers on the upper rear tang and the first two numbers represented the year of manufacturing. That number subtracted from one hundred would tell you the year. For instance an owe four was built in 1996 but a ninty six was built in 2004. Some real Marlin Limited edition and cowboy models had the Marlin type serial number on the right side of the reciever but were eight number and had the first two number as manufacturing dates as were all the Marlin built guns. This was to accomodate those who wanted to use tang mounted sights that were popular in cowboy action shooting and eleminated the need to drill through the serial number or cover the serial number when installing those sights.
In the transition years some guns were built well and shot well. You just have to look them over and decide if you are willing to live with what is there. Good ones were a bargin because no one wanted to get stuck with some unseen flaw so avoided all Marlins from the period. So the fact that it was manufactured during this time period was a bargining chip. AS I stated earlier, none of this is chiseled in stone, but will help you determine what you are generally looking at.
Thanks...
by woody, Sunday, July 28, 2013, 10:35 (4141 days ago) @ jgt
That was very informative.