This old Colt I've been pondering raised a question in my head today. What was the first non-1911 pattern semi-auto chambered in .45 ACP? I don't know the answer, but I couldn't think of anything that existed before the Sig P220. H&K P9? Star PD?

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Looks like a 1911. Uses the same magazine and the same barrel. The trigger pivots like a Star pistol. I have one and it has old style 1911 (not A1) sights. Fairly accurate and has never jammed. Oh and they do not have a grip safety. Made back in the 30's to 50's?

Bob

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Just saw NON 1911 style.

...What was the first non-1911 pattern semi-auto chambered in .45 ACP?...

Non-1911s they are.

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I will take one of each please!

COLT 1905.

Before the 1911 there were the Colt 1905 and 1907 in 45 ACP.

And a 1910 also, Charles.

I seem to think that there were a couple Broomhandle Mauser prototypes built in .45 ACP. Or maybe I'm dreaming.

-AaronB

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200 gr slug, and the frame could crack with sustained use of the heavier bullet.

or did i just disremember this. always like the lines of the 1905 but have never handled on personally.

I had one about 1960 or so. It came out of Mexico and had very worn silver grips on it. There was not one spot of blue and the markings on the slide were worn off the left side from being carried Mexican style. The metal was unpitted, just very worn. The rifling in the barrel were just dark lines from being shot. It was all there and worked just fine. I fired one magazine through it and it went bang every time.

It really wasn't a shooter and I was not a collector at the time, so it went by-by in some long forgotten swap. I think I paid $25.00 for it. I bet that old pistol had some stories to tell.

It was a pretty cool design with two toggles holding the barrel to the frame. With the slide off, the barrel was still on the frame held firmly by two wedges.