My P220C Dark Elite is terrible about throwing brass about 20' north-east...i.e. in the grass down range making it extremely hard to recover brass. I personally think the recoil spring is a bit weak and would like to either replace it with a new factory spring or a Wolff version in extra power form. Problem is, I see NO listing for a recoil spring of any kind for the Carry sized gun anywhere. I've tried Sig, Midway, Top Gun Supply, Brownells, etc. Nothing. Is this just a futile search? I love these guns but this is where a 1911 just has it all over everything else. Any help would be appreciated,

rob

What about Wolff?

http://www.gunsprings.com/

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Sig Sauer Factory Recoil Spring, P220R3 .45 - Red

Sig Sauer factory replacement recoil spring for P220 Carry .45.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer
SKU: P00165

IN STOCK

Price $8.29

HTH

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I was pretty much shocked to find they did not have anything for the Carry version. They are different because they (Wolff) even specify "Does not fit Carry Model". Strange. I may just have to buy a caliber conversion in the regular P220 slide length. It's only .5" longer anyhow so I'm not real sure I get the point of the P220C and P229's. I'll at least get another factory magazine:)

But if you go to TGS, you won't have to.

If you shoot the gun much, I would recommend getting a few replacements, as I would not expect recoil springs to last very long in any short .45 Auto.

HTH

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Hopefully it will help. The gun is practically new but sat on a shelf for about three years before I bought it. Either way, if it doesn't, ill have a good spare. I'd rather see an extra power Wolff but I don't think they make one...I haven't found it if they do:)

Is the spring that's in the gun now painted 'red'?

I believe it's supposed to be.

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Nothing against the SIG, but a 'full-size' P220 is more akin to the Commander than a Government Model.

In terms of recoil springs, this means you start at the short end of the stick with the standard P220.

Step down to the P220C, and you probably cannot expect more than 1000 rounds or so before it's time to replace the recoil spring. The good news is, factory replacements are available.

Regarding lengevity, 'extra' power wouldn't buy you much. Some might even argue it beats up the gun on the forward recoil stroke, but that could be 'stretching' things. If the gun is cycling properly, the spring itself won't last any longer than a standard-power spring.

Alloy selection, along with construction techniques such as the wound-wire recoil springs used in SIGs, can affect spring life, but those choices are typically beyond the purview of the end-user.

If the 'old days' were any indication, the gun to probably have is indeed the full-size 1911. Back then, no one ever replaced the recoil spring in their .45 or anything else.

Unless something broke...

That's a bit of an exaggeration, of course.

But only a bit.

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I was curious myself so pulled it out of the safe and took a look. Not a lot of red but its there.

I'm kind of a fan of the Colt Commanders though:) I prefer the standard 5" without a rail to all of them though. I agree in theory the heavier recoil spring batters the gun going back into battery but all things considered, you are picking up a fresh round, stripping it from the mag, pushing it and the barrel back up into lockup and the top bullet in the magazine is also somewhat putting the brakes on the slide. I think it's generally horse do-do but I'm just an amateur:) My only goal is reduce ejection velocity. Oh yeah...sometimes it's really weak going into lockup and needs to be helped along the last 1/16" or so during live fire. It's tight for a Sig but it just has every indication the spring is weak.

It's probably just seen better days (which, like I said, might not have been that long ago).

NOTE: If the gun still throws empties into the next dimension after replacing the recoil spring,
that would seem to leave just two possibilities: (1) the Ejector, or (2) Physics.

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Custom Combat Commander by Steve Nastoff (ca. 1990)

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Actually, it's probably a bit overdue.

It will be interesting to see how much of a difference a new factory recoil spring makes.

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Steve's work is great...

Thanks for the compliment.

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