Is it Windex w vinegar or ammonia for black powder clean up?
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Is it Windex w vinegar or ammonia for black powder clean up?
by John D , New York, Friday, January 13, 2012, 16:23 (4701 days ago) @ E.Sisk
Windex and Vinegar. You can find it in the supermarket already mixed.
Hot ,soapy water works great as well.
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Friday, January 13, 2012, 16:50 (4701 days ago) @ E.Sisk
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Vinegar!
by cas, Friday, January 13, 2012, 17:05 (4701 days ago) @ E.Sisk
Works great and easy to use. Yes, easier than soap and water. I can bring it with me to spray on patches, down barrels or to drench
a lock clean.
Thanks guys, had both under the kitchen sink, and brainlock
by E.Sisk , Friday, January 13, 2012, 18:35 (4701 days ago) @ E.Sisk
I have been practicing all week with my Ruger Old Army. Our second black powder season opens in a couple of weeks. Tried several loads with round ball and Lee Old Army bullet, Goex, white hots and Shockey,s Gold. Settled on a home made dipper made from a 44 special case, full of Shockey,s Gold and Lee bullet, consistent 2" groups from a rest at 25 yards when I am REAL carefull with the loading process. Mixed a little vinegar Windex and some Dawn with boiling water, every thing came clean as a wistle. I had sprayed it down with Ballistol at the end of each shooting session so the residue was already pretty soft. Four days of practice, eight cylinders full each day.
Thanks guys, had both under the kitchen sink, and brainlock
by uncowboy, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 02:26 (4701 days ago) @ E.Sisk
I switched to simple green straight. $8.00 a gallon at home depo and I use it for everything including patching round balls. WORKS GREAT!
Is it Windex w vinegar or ammonia for black powder clean up?
by Jhenry, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 09:23 (4700 days ago) @ E.Sisk
I have used them all. Just about anything with a water base will clean the stuff. Over the years, to include quite a few years competing every weekend, I came to the conclusion that those old match shooters may know a thing or two. What works better than anything I have ever used, and I mean hands down better, is a combination of 1/3 Murphy's Oil Soap, 1/3 Rubbing Alcohol, and 1/3 Hydrogen Peroxide from the drug store. The common type off the shelf. Stir together and keep it in a light proof container because the hydrogen peroxide component will weaken with exposure to light. I keep it in a throat spray bottle, such as a Chloraseptic bottle, spray painted black. I have used the same bottle for 15 years plus at this point. They last very well. This stuff will dissolve and carry away black powder residue like nothing I have ever seen. No damage to metal or wood either. Cheap and easy to make. I spray it on the patches. When shooting matches I used to lay out patches, give them a light spray and kept them in a ziplock. Between each shot I would run one down the bore, flip it over, run it again, and then run a dry patch the same way. Golden. My Green Mountain .40 barrel is as good now as it was new.
PS. I have no idea on earth how well this stuff works on artificial black powder. That stuff was placed here on earth by satan to tempt us from the true path. When encountering artificial black powder, throw garlic at it, avert your eyes, pray and hug your Goex tightly. All will be well.
I was out of fffg Goex only had ffg. Lots of flame from
by erssk , Saturday, January 14, 2012, 23:25 (4700 days ago) @ Jhenry
the Old Army, accurate enough, but poor ballistics for hunting. Kind of impressive to onlookers at the indoor range though. The White Hots and Shockey's were given to me. only have three pounds of the Goex ffg left, any suggestions on BP brands when I resupply? I have always used Goex.
I was out of fffg Goex only had ffg. Lots of flame from
by Jhenry, Sunday, January 15, 2012, 08:45 (4700 days ago) @ erssk
I prefer Goex over others. For anything .45 and under, pistol or rifle, I use 3f. 2f for larger bores. I HAVE used 3f for my .50 longrifle with good results. It is not really a safety issue, just an accuracy issue. Quite a few match shooters have had excellent results with the Swiss blackpowder. It does burn a bit wetter, that is the fouling is slicker. You can also get slightly higher velocities. Not enough to matter in my opinion. Goex is very consistent and is American made. It is the old Dupont powder but now made by Goex. It is about as close to the old time stuff as you are ever going to get.
Switching to KIK.
by cas, Monday, January 16, 2012, 17:15 (4698 days ago) @ Jhenry
The first real BP I ever bought was when I got a flintlock, lots of research said that KIK had less fouling. (?) So I bought 2f KIK. I like it but didn't really have anything to compare it with, other than subs.
When I started shooting black powder cartridges I went with Goex Express based on recommendations. Also tried some Swiss. In my use I didn't see any real difference other than in how I had to load it, since the compression is really different between the two.
When Goex decided to stop making Express I decided I would go with KIK across the board. And I have, kind of, sort of. I still have a little more Express than I thought I did. And the rest of the Swiss. Still got plenty of subs too that I can't seem to give away. Though I have one muzzle loader that loves a certain load of 777, so I don't know if I should bother switching on that one. Though I haven't shot it in a couple years, so it's not a pressing issue I guess. And I will still load American Pioneer in my 577/450's… which I haven't loaded in a couple years either. Hmmm….