is the sky falling?

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, December 03, 2012, 10:11 (4355 days ago)

History will probably show....

by Byron, Monday, December 03, 2012, 12:30 (4355 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

That Obama was the most influencial and powerful president this country has seen. He is dead set on fulfulling his socialist agenda and has show in the past that he is remarkably successful in getting things done the way he wants them done.

In that the takers now outnumber the makers by an effective margin it may be impossible to turn things around. In that greater numbers receiving entitlements increase the power of govenment over the people it is in the administrations self-interest that the economy suffers by way of the demonization of success, through wealth redistribution and the gutting of capitalist businesses.

Things will change in a fundimental way during the next 4 years.

Byron

History is repeating itself.

by Charles, Monday, December 03, 2012, 13:16 (4355 days ago) @ Rob Leahy
edited by Charles, Monday, December 03, 2012, 21:51

Obama isn't the first President to circumvent Congress, bully the Courts and violate the Constitution wholesale, for what the felt to to be the "greater good". Obama is following in the footsteps of Abraham Lincoln, but has a long way to go to catch up.

Read what Lincoln did, in an ojective way, looking at how he governed with respect to the laws and the Constitution and you will come to the same conclusion. Obama is not stupid and knows what Lincoln got away with and how history has diefied him. It is amazing how a bullet in the back of the head will transform a tyrant into a saint, speaking of Lincoln of course.

He keeps up and no doubt there will be an armed insurrection of some kind. Whether or not it will be sucessful remains to be seen.

The sky may not be falling yet, but there are very dark clouds gathering on the horizon. Watch, stay alert, employ your critical thinking skill and keep your powder dry.

History is repeating itself.

by Jhenry, Monday, December 03, 2012, 16:42 (4355 days ago) @ Charles

The tyrant wants an armed insurrection. I truly believe that. It would be incredibly useful on many levels to Obama and his mission. He is a tyrant, a disordered narcissistic, and has shown some pretty convincing signs of having a messianic complex of some stripe. He is simply dangerous. The last thing I want though is for him to become a deified martyr. History will judge the man, I just want it to be accurate and not through the lens of some national tragedy.

History is repeating itself.

by Charles, Monday, December 03, 2012, 21:48 (4355 days ago) @ Jhenry
edited by Charles, Monday, December 03, 2012, 22:02

I do believe we are in agreement. The Lincoln of history has become all but lost in mythology and Abe worship. I certainly would not like to see the same happen to our current President. The governing style of these two men are more and more alike with each passing day. Each justified their tyrany by saying it is for the good of the nation and a greater moral good. Slavery was Lincoln's stalking horse and Obama's is the need to redistribute wealth from the oppressive rich and give it to the poor who rightly produced it in the first place.

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