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as long as we are on AR's Colt HBar II trigger question. (reply)

Slow Hand — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 02:07:16 +0000

I have lucked/traded into a Timney and a CMC. The Timney is installed in my Troy carbine and it is amazing. Nice, light, short reset. It has an AIMpoint on it so I can't say how it has helped accuracy (although it HAS to be better!) but the speed is amazing! Coupled with a SureFire brake, this carbine is wonderfully fast.

The CMC was installed in an M&P-10. It was pretty accurate and felt very nice as well. It is currently waiting to be installed in another AR so I'll have a better report in a few months (once the ATF gives me another SBR stamp)

Speaking of SBR's. My .300 blk has a boring factory (CMMG) trigger that I lightly polished and installed. Yellow JP Enterprises hammer spring. It feels pretty darned good for a whole lot less than a drop in unit. Might be an option to look into before dropping a bunch of money on a new trigger.

hard to say without more infoo (reply)

Miles — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 04:18:07 +0000

The triggers I'm most familiar with are the SSA, SSA-E and, of course, the SSF. Others? Only what I've seen demonstrated.

Can't really. (reply)

cas — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 02:00:47 +0000

Since I don't know what models they were. I THINK one of them was a 3 gun model or something. I mean, they weren't BAD, but certainly not worthy of all the praise I read. Perhaps the other models/versions are better.

I also think they have a bit of a "fanboy" following, like a lot of products in that market. Some brands more than others. So if you get someone who's never used anything other than heavy crunchy factory parts, then they buy one of those, of course it's going to seem amazing to them and they're going to rave.

interesting. Tell me more (reply)

Miles — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 00:18:37 +0000

always interested in discoveries

I find this very interesting. (reply)

cas — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 21:32:12 +0000

I hear everybody talk them up.

I've tried two of them and was FAR from impressed (for the money). Maybe it was the versions that had..

I JUST BUGHT (reply)

uncowboy — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0000

two Geissele's target triggers and they are beyond nice. I would recommend them. J.Michael

when my guys brought in their personal ARs for work (reply)

Miles — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 04:33:07 +0000

most of them went and bought SSA-Es.

I am very impressed with.... (reply)

rob — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 02:44:34 +0000

The Geissele SSA-E trigger I put in my lower. I want to say it's about 2.5 pounds first stage and maybe 1.5 second stage IIRC. Opposite your average AR trigger that has a lighter take up and a heavier second stage. Haven't fired it yet but dry firing was love at first pull. Hopefully we'll get to shoot it tomorrow. Simple 5 minute install if you read slow...no need for a modular unit at all.

I had a 3 pound Jewell in an AR-10 (reply)

MR — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 01:09:01 +0000

and had it professionally installed. It was great, although I think it was closer to a 3 gram trigger than a 3 oz.
If I can get a good trigger and get away from grinding out the sear block, I would choose that option. I've also got a DPMS that is mil spec regarding no sear block on which I may try a different option.

How much work do you want to do? (reply)

bj — Sat, 25 Apr 2015 00:34:37 +0000

Geisselle is very popular because they make a good 2-stage trigger for service rifle competition. I have a lot of experience with the Jewel which was one of the first 2-stage. It is a bit involved to install and set up but seems to last a long time after that. JP Enterprise used to be known for a good 1-stage trigger. All of these are "in pieces" meaning you have to assemble them in the gun. I've noticed other brands of self-contained triggers that you just drop in the one piece and put 2 pins through it, but they are more expensive. It seems that these days there are a lot of different good options.

If you're going to spend that much for triggers... (reply)

Miles — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 23:21:58 +0000

a Geissele trigger of which ever flavor you prefer will be more than satisfactory.

Thank you. (reply)

MR — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 22:38:55 +0000

No dice on Springfield (reply)

BC — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 22:26:36 +0000

I looked at his work and uncovered several horror stories about his grinding through hardened surfaces, leading to short lifespans of the "improved" triggers.

Geissle looks like the best bet, although there are no shortage of options.

Thanks Mark! (reply)

MR — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:14:57 +0000

#3 be me on both rifles.

You may not have to grind out the sear block... (reply)

mcassill — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:56:25 +0000

Here is Geissele's take on the subject.

http://geissele.com/colt-rifle-users-guide/

as long as we are on AR's Colt HBar II trigger question.

MR — Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:20:10 +0000

I have two of them. They are both extremely accurate, and suit me as far as size, and accessories, other than the triggers.

Bill Springfield for about $60
or
Have the sear block ground out and a Timney for about $325?

I don't mind doing it right. Which ever way is right.