The Frontier Sixshooter Community Message Board - I'd like to have a leather IWB but haven't been able to fin

I'd like to have a leather IWB but haven't been able to fin (reply)

BobM — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:36:27 +0000

I've got a Cuda but I'd like to have one to accomodate the M&P40/TLR combo if you'd like to give that a try.

Weapon mounted lights have one big advantage. (reply)

cas — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:14:03 +0000

You mount it to the weapon and usually stays there. It doesn't end up in the garage, or in the car, or in the basement because you were doing something, needed a light and that was the best one.

I'd like to have a leather IWB but haven't been able to fin (reply)

Rob Leahy — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:32:44 +0000

D ONE." what????http://shop.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/DEFCON-3.cfm?item_id=414&parent=669

Thoughts on my limited experiance w/Weapons lights: (reply)

Sarge — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:18:44 +0000

For the average guy (or average cop) I would tend to agree. I've seen too many guys turn their gun light on and leave it on during a building search.

Recon Marines, Cav Scouts etc and their LE counterparts are another matter entirely. 'Light discipline' can be taught and if you've going to use one, on or off the gun, it's extremely important.

Then you better be shooting HIM. (reply)

mcassill — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:30:25 +0000

Exactly. (reply)

mcassill — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:29:32 +0000

Thoughts on my limited experiance w/Weapons lights: (reply)

Slow Hand — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:49:29 +0000

The kydex will hold upmost fine, but keep bug spray away from it! Apparently some ingredient in most big sprays will attack the plastic and make it brittle. I need to experiment some time and see what it actually does.

One needs a light, but I wouldn't count on the bad guy stand (reply)

Catoosa — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 03:08:34 +0000

What Rob said. I think you also have to consider that you may be up against a hardcore bad guy who does not give a damm about collateral damage. In such case, his instant reaction to being hit with your light will be to empty his magazine toward the light without regard to whether or not he can see you. He still knows you are back there behind that light somewhere, and won't care who or what else is.

Thoughts on my limited experiance w/Weapons lights: (reply)

BobM — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 02:29:46 +0000

I generally carry my issued duty pistol (M&P40/TLR) off duty in a kydex IWB. I'd like to have a leather IWB but haven't been able to find one. I practice with the issue pistol more than any other so it makes some sense to use it off duty as well.
That being said, I'll be camping out this weekend and my M&P9 will be in a Cuda as I'm concerned (maybe I'm wrong) about kydex cracking from being knocked around in the woods.

Weapon mounted lights are bullet magnets..... (reply)

Slow Hand — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:07:04 +0000

Don't normally do 'selfies' but I was trying to get a laugh out of the wife woth this one. I wore my fully loaded plate carrier while
Doing one of her workout videos last week!

Figure if I ever need it, I'll be under duress, so why not? This one is kinda set up for a bad bad situation, but you can get a basic throw over PC with front and back plates for pretty cheap from AR500 Armor. Not a bad idea to have by the bed. Set up simply with a pistol holster, a spare mag or two and a light. Maybe a blow out kit as well just in case metal hits meat...

I often carry a G19 with a TLR-3 on it (reply)

Slow Hand — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:59:59 +0000

In one of my early IWB kydex holsters. I've worn it several hours straight and also took it to MI as my wolf protection gun last two years. 8-9 hours in a truck and several more strolling through the woods with no major amount of discomfort. Puts out a decent amount of light for its size. I have a TLR-1 on my AR house gun. Slightly bigger but MUCH brighter.

I normally carry a small 120 lumen light as well. If I need to look at something in the dark I use the pocket light. If I need to shoot something in the dark, I'll use the light alredy on the gun.

I agree that lights are bullet magnets, but if you are going to be attracting incoming fire, why wouldn't you want to have a light that requires no extra holding hands and just happens to be pointing where your firearm is?

I don't get how a slight amount of weight would slow down a draw and for the most part, if I'm going to investigate a noise etc, the gun is going to be in my hands anyways.

Oh, this old thing?... (reply)

Rob Leahy — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:06:01 +0000

Number one rule: (reply)

Byron — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:50:41 +0000

Better to ask for forgiveness than permission...

Byron

If you shoot someone while wearing a plate carrier... (reply)

cas — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:47:31 +0000

…it's advisable you take it off before the cops get there.

I didn't ask... (reply)

Rob Leahy — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:47:25 +0000

I can see it now! Honey, I want night vision binoculars and (reply)

stonewalrus — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:55:48 +0000

Body armor for Christmas... Wife: You want WHAT?!?!

NV and armor! I like it. NV can be had for 150.00.Armor (reply)

Rob Leahy — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:55:01 +0000

for 350.00 of so....

Weapon mounted lights are bullet magnets..... (reply)

Byron — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:33:27 +0000

Clip a light on an airsoft gun and go out into the backyard and shoot it out with a training partner.

You will get shot a lot, mostly around the hands. No bueno for Byron.

I have been rethinking a lot of this stuff over the past couple of years.

When things go bump in the night....

Think night vision and armor.

Stats are that one is 85% less likely to die in a gunfight if they are wearing body armor. That is an advantage that should not be ignored.

For $2000 one can acquire kit that will sway the equation to the point that the VAST majority of criminals will have utterly no chance whatsoever. Fish in a barrel.

While this advantage might be considered to be cold blooded murder by some there can be no question that it will work like a charm.

Byron

It's differnt for LEO/Soldier vs citizen. (reply)

Rob Leahy — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:38:36 +0000

and not having any light is pure recklessness.

The Corpus Christi Curmudgeon has definite thoughts on that (reply)

Cherokee — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:14:30 +0000

Would help if I knew who you were refering to....