The Frontier Sixshooter Community Message Board - I'd say I'm sorry fer yankin' yer chain

I'd say I'm sorry fer yankin' yer chain (reply)

FOG — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:02:44 +0000

But I'm not, so there!

I had to educate our young .50 gunner on corrosive priming (reply)

Cherokee — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 00:26:13 +0000

Back in 1965 in OCS we took our M14's into the shower with us to get them clean. Really hot water worked great.

Sometimes I just don't get it... (reply)

Hobie — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:56:02 +0000

I had to educate our young .50 gunner on corrosive priming (reply)

mcassill — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:22:20 +0000

As that is now something only gun nuts know anything about, it seems. His solution for cleaning out the barrel was to take it in the shower with him. Worked well enough...

About WWII ammo... (reply)

John K. — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:20:29 +0000

I still have lots and lots of surplus WWII ammo - most of it is reliable. Some is absolutely terrible - the worst is one lot of Radway Green cordite 303 brit. Pop, fizz, hang fires abound. Then there's the Turkish 8mm... but it probably wasn't much good brand new as evinced by the cracked necks from bullet seating.

Also have some German 7.62x51 that apparently was wet enough at some point to nearly dissolve the 20rnd square cardboard boxes. Tho dry, they crumble at the touch. Ammo works fine.

Based on what I know, I would speculate it probably centers around temperature and humidiy extremes during storage. Wide temp swings play havoc with many things.

Not me, I knew what you were referencing. (reply)

John K. — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:12:06 +0000

About WWII ammo... (reply)

Hobie — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:54:22 +0000

I've been told, on good authority, i.e. I believe this fellow, that last year (2012) there was fired a 1943 105mm gun/howitzer with 1943 ammo from the Normandy coast into the channel to celebrate the anniversary of the embarkation. These were HE rounds and they had zero problem with any of the ammunition.

But not the same by a 'long shot", hence my (reply)

Hobie — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:52:01 +0000

confusion. I did not want to assume what you meant.

Dardick gun cartridge - short for "triangular round". (reply)

John K. — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:47:27 +0000

Plastic cased, IIRC.

They have a plastic reduced range cartridge for training... (reply)

Hobie — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:40:46 +0000

"Trounds"?

'Trounds'? (reply)

FOG — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 06:06:44 +0000

Last but not least... (reply)

FOG — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 06:04:31 +0000

Always a bit too handy in my case, cynicism said something like 'Training Issue'.

I figured if you have time to make a 'movie' about it, the gunfight is probably just a side show.

'Easier said than done', I'm sure, but there it is.

Maintenance, too, I guess (reply)

FOG — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 05:56:37 +0000

I thought 'maybe', but when you fold in the old ammo, there might not be enough scrubbing to go around, no matter how hard you try.

Thank you (reply)

FOG — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 05:50:58 +0000

I had some pretty 'wild' ideas about the reasons for what I'd been seeing on YouTube, but that settles it.

If anyone else had said 'WWII Ammo' − (NO OFFENSE to anyone who did!) − I probably wouldn't have believed it.

Still, it's pretty hard to believe.

Someone should make a 'movie'...

Always great to hear it from the guy that has actually been (reply)

Rob Leahy — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 03:46:39 +0000

there and done that, for keeps.

.50 BMG Question (reply)

lee jurras — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 03:23:48 +0000

Yes by many, he was a one of a kind. Handgunner, camper extrordinaire, Phd in EE.
And a true friend.

.50 BMG Question (reply)

Tom Richardson — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 02:15:22 +0000

Kent is surely missed.

Funny you mention WWII ammo... (reply)

mcassill — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 02:10:01 +0000

we had a big batch of .50 ammo over in the desert made at Des Moines (at what is now John Deere Ankeny Works) in 1945, which we thought must have come out of a warehouse in Germany. Guns ran just fine on it; properly set up, Ma Deuce will keep running with amounts of sand/dust that would hopelessly choke lesser weapons.

I followed the timing and headspace instructions (reply)

Hobie — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:28:18 +0000

to the letter and never had a gun fail to fire even with the plastic ammo.

Dem sons of guns are HEAVY! I've never seen a barrel wilt as Lee describes, maybe 'cause I didn't want to buy it!

Non quals running them mostly... (reply)

Rob Leahy — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:21:47 +0000

I watched GIs get one round off from their vehicle mounted M60s and M2s because they were not properly running the gun. And as John mentioned; old ammo, road grime dust ect. Many , Many GIs run their M2s properly and kill bad guys a plenty. Waiting for a certain 2 war veteran Army officer that has actually used m2s in combat to chime in here!